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I don't remember her being at Prince William's St. Andrew's ceremony.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:04 PM
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I don't remember her being at Prince William's St. Andrew's ceremony.
She and Prince Phillip were definitely there. They sat in the balcony (I believe) with Charles and Camilla.
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:11 PM
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She and Prince Phillip were definitely there. They sat in the balcony (I believe) with Charles and Camilla.
You are correct! Here is a video...
June 23, 2005: Prince William Graduates
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:12 PM
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The Queen at William's St Andrews graduation

There's also a video of both William and Catherine graduating where you can see the immense pride on the Queen's face. I'm sure it's on YouTube somewhere.

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Somewhere could be read that beatrice could only invite two people for her graduation ceremony and obviously she brought mother and father with her (not sure if it was her choice or if her parents insisted) but she obviously decided not to ask for any privileges, like in bringing Granny along.... Which would not have meant extra people but an awful lot of security and extra work for the organizers of said ceremony...
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Princess Beatrice

The lovely Beatrice is definitely in a difficult position....I liked this take on what's next: The Future of Princess Beatrice ~ Part One The Royal Post
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I think Beatrice has many options and is in a fortunate position overall with regard to her career options. IMO her relatively low place in the line of succession means that there aren't a lot of careers she couldn't pursue, an exception maybe being politics. She could work at a museum, at a non profit, at a company or business, she could do further graduate training and look at teaching or research. If the HRH became an issue she could cease to use it in her professional life. I don't know if I see either of the York ladies following a traditional career path, though.
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:18 PM
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I think Beatrice has many options and is in a fortunate position overall with regard to her career options. IMO her relatively low place in the line of succession means that there aren't a lot of careers she couldn't pursue, an exception maybe being politics. She could work at a museum, at a non profit, at a company or business, she could do further graduate training and look at teaching or research. If the HRH became an issue she could cease to use it in her professional life. I don't know if I see either of the York ladies following a traditional career path, though.
Her relatively low place? She's fifth. Two cars with Charles, William, Harry and her father - gone, and she's Queen Beatrice.
She will always be a HRH and known as one if she looses it in marriage, not sure if she does. She will be criticised to the hilt if she gets a paying job that can be in anyway connecting to her 'contacts' or HRH. Even Catherine was accused of using William in the job circle. Beatrice has got to be careful, and is better sticking to non-profit charity&/work (away from her mother) until she's married and then thinking of something paid perhaps.
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Old 09-11-2011, 04:23 PM
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She'll always be Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice. She won't lose her title upon marriage. Her title is her birthright.

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She will always be a HRH and known as one if she looses it in marriage, not sure if she does. She will be criticised to the hilt if she gets a paying job that can be in anyway connecting to her 'contacts' or HRH.
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She'll always be Her Royal Highness Princess Beatrice. She won't lose her title upon marriage. Her title is her birthright.
Thank you - those LPs confuse me to heavens sometimes.
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Her relatively low place? She's fifth. Two cars with Charles, William, Harry and her father - gone, and she's Queen Beatrice.
She will always be a HRH and known as one if she looses it in marriage, not sure if she does. She will be criticised to the hilt if she gets a paying job that can be in anyway connecting to her 'contacts' or HRH. Even Catherine was accused of using William in the job circle. Beatrice has got to be careful, and is better sticking to non-profit charity&/work (away from her mother) until she's married and then thinking of something paid perhaps.
Yes, her relatively low place. The odds of Beatrice becoming queen are extraordinarily low and she'll continue to drop ever further down the list as the years go on.
And just because she's legally HRH Princess Beatrice doesn't mean she needs to use the title. I believe Prince Edward's children are legally TRH Prince James and Princess Louise of Wessex but they're not routinely styled as such. Beatrice certainly has the option of not using her title in her day to day working life. Yes, she'll face lots of criticism if she finds paying work but, surprise, surprise, she'll face at least as much criticism if she doesn't.
To be clear though I think a regular, long term, paying job is likely not what these women are going to wind up doing over the next few years. But I disagree with those who think it wouldn't be an option.
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Old 09-11-2011, 09:08 PM
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Yes, her relatively low place. The odds of Beatrice becoming queen are extraordinarily low and she'll continue to drop ever further down the list as the years go on.
And just because she's legally HRH Princess Beatrice doesn't mean she needs to use the title. I believe Prince Edward's children are legally TRH Prince James and Princess Louise of Wessex but they're not routinely styled as such. Beatrice certainly has the option of not using her title in her day to day working life. Yes, she'll face lots of criticism if she finds paying work but, surprise, surprise, she'll face at least as much criticism if she doesn't.
To be clear though I think a regular, long term, paying job is likely not what these women are going to wind up doing over the next few years. But I disagree with those who think it wouldn't be an option.
Not to get side-tracked but IMHO Princess Beatrice certainly does not hold a "low place" in the order of succession. As she is a grand-daughter to the sovereign, daughter to a son of the sovereign, niece to the heir apparent and first cousin to the 2nd in line to the throne...I doubt she will be "squeezed out" from taking on a schedule of royal duties. Perhaps not receiving as much media coverage as her father, grandmother, uncles, aunts and cousins, which should be expected and simultaneously welcomed. I see her and Princess Eugenie taking on roles similar to the late Princess Margaret and Princess Alexandra of Kent. Again IMHO...
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Yes, her relatively low place. The odds of Beatrice becoming queen are extraordinarily low and she'll continue to drop ever further down the list as the years go on.
And just because she's legally HRH Princess Beatrice doesn't mean she needs to use the title. I believe Prince Edward's children are legally TRH Prince James and Princess Louise of Wessex but they're not routinely styled as such. Beatrice certainly has the option of not using her title in her day to day working life. Yes, she'll face lots of criticism if she finds paying work but, surprise, surprise, she'll face at least as much criticism if she doesn't.
To be clear though I think a regular, long term, paying job is likely not what these women are going to wind up doing over the next few years. But I disagree with those who think it wouldn't be an option.
I am going to answer that here
Duties and Roles of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie
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I have been a personal shopping assistant. It is merely contacting the customer to let them know when something has come in that they would like. Now, I had to learn how to "nudge" the customer into the purchase (and I was paid commission only). This position was excellent for learning how to handle people.
The Personal Shoppers in Selfridges are a little different. Their role is to work with customers who need dressing - often for particular occasions, but sometimes just 'generally'. The idea is that the customer makes an appointment with the 'Personal Shopping Suite' giving the Personal Shopper service some idea of what she likes, what the occasion(s) are that she needs 'dressing' for, her measurements and some idea of her budget. The Personal Shopper then scouts the store and puts together a selection of possibilities. On the appointed day, the customer heads towards the Suite and, after being plied with free refreshments, is taken to a dressing room and surveys the selections and then tries on any that she likes. Alternatively, the customer can then head round the store with the Personal Shopper, who knows where other alternatives might be found.

A typical instruction is to put together an outfit for Royal Ascot or a Wedding. If the personal shopper has done her stuff correctly, a number of elegant outfits, beautifully accessorised, should be waiting for her and at the budget she has requested.

I prefer to do my own wardrobe, but friends of mine do use this sort of service, which is offered by many major department stores. One of my friends who does use Selfridges reports that it is actually quite good and that the store can deliver on budget - even if the budget is quite small - and that there is no pressure to buy.

The experience gained is felt to be ideal for a career in fashion journalism, or as useful experience before going on to study fashion at College.

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The position would work into what you've stated, but would start out as a sort of apprenticeship. She would not have the expertise to do what you describe from day 1. If she did well going forward, she would be promoted to the position of buyer.
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The position would work into what you've stated, but would start out as a sort of apprenticeship. She would not have the expertise to do what you describe from day 1. If she did well going forward, she would be promoted to the position of buyer.
.... except there may be the small matter of the track record of Beatrice dressing for occassions. Not sure I would want to use the skills of the young princess as a personal shopper.
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.... except there may be the small matter of the track record of Beatrice dressing for occassions. Not sure I would want to use the skills of the young princess as a personal shopper.
But I have no doubt she does know exactly what is appropriate for any official occasion. It's a bit like Sarah Buys, Camilla's daughter-in-law. I can't remember having seen her in an outfit where I said: wow! Instead very often I think; what did she think... Still, she is a reknown fashion journalist because she has that special feeling for upcoming trends and how to visualise them so that they are right there for anybody to see when the time has come for them to be fashionable. That really is a very important talent and it doesn't matter how she herself looks as long as this talent is there and recognized.

So far I believe Beatrice has a general grip on trends and especially on colours. On a topmodel her fashion choices would look great, they are daring but still mainstream. They often have interesting details and variations on current fashion trends that to me look even a bit "satorical" ( well, like a satirical view on satorial efforts). IMHO Beatrice's problem is that she can't be her own model and neither can her mother and sister. But maybe there is more to her then we think at this point.
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Journalism ? Yes, but why does it have to be fashion journalism ??
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Journalism ? Yes, but why does it have to be fashion journalism ??
Is there something wrong with fashion journalism?
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Beatrice ended up doing a degree which had nothing to do with fashion so I don't see it as an industry she will be going into. Not sure what all these internships are she has lined up or how they work but I'm sure we should find out soon where she is working etc. Do interns get paid? Is it normal to do more then one internship?
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