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Old 05-13-2010, 11:11 PM
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I rather not having a Monarchy at all if they let that woman back into the Firm...
Well, I'd still like to see a Monarchy minus Sarah.
The problem I have here is that she spends, spends, spends.
Part of their divorce was for this reason, among other things.
So I think he'd be a bit wary of any remarriage between them.
But to other people YES, why not.
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The problem I have is not only the spending it is the coat tail riding. They are divorced after all. The Princesses are over 20 after all. He lets her. I am wondering why. There has to be more that meets the eye than is being said.
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You've said before that you think there's more than meets the eye with Sarah living with Andrew, etc...what do you think is going on?
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:33 PM
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The problem I have is not only the spending it is the coat tail riding. They are divorced after all. The Princesses are over 20 after all. He lets her. I am wondering why. There has to be more that meets the eye than is being said.
That is obvious to most people - they are a de facto couple living together, supporting each other and being a family. It is the perfect royal arrangement - having the partnership without the royal duties for the wife who didn't really want to do them but also with the two heirs in case.

I don't see them remarrying at a stage that would bring her back into the royal family in a real way but I do see them together in old age (with maybe something close to a death bed marriage so that they can be buried together in a royal plot at Windsor.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:44 PM
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What I think is that Andrew is still in love with her. He always has been, always will be, and imo, when Her Majesty goes to that great throne room in the sky, they will remarry.
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You've said before that you think there's more than meets the eye with Sarah living with Andrew, etc...what do you think is going on?
I think Andrew is trying to keep her out of trouble as best as he can and I'd bet a good bottle of Merlot that HM and Prince Philip charged him with that duty. He's been quite the gentleman to Sarah and he's more than once bailed her out housing-wise. We've seen that PA has had more than 1 romance and Sarah has moved on as well.
Do you guys remember when Sarah was with the children at Ascot making a complete spectacle of herself?? The next day, there was Andrew. I'll just bet HM said, "Andrew, see to that woman, please, she is your ex wife after all!"
This because, if you have read the Fergie: Confidential Book, and Alan Starkie's book on Fergie you know she is her own worse enemy.
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I read that Starkie book last week in the library, since it was getting so much mention in this forum. Apparently I hadn't read it before. While I do believe that the book is basically a true account of Starkie's experiences with Sarah and her behaviour, I also want to point out that Starkie declared in the book that he and John Bryan "tried to manipulate Sarah" by sometimes appearing friendly to her and sometimes dropping out of contact. Yet Starkie writes that he didn't feel guilty, because he also tried to help Sarah manipulate John Bryan! He also watched John Bryan verbally abuse Sarah, declared that Sarah appeared terrified of Bryan, and was aware that Bryan rarely showed up at his actual job, but still hung around with Bryan and Sarah, apparently because he believed they could make big money out of Sarah. So I have to say I don't have the hugest respect for Allan Starkie. And when he claims that he was frustrated because Sarah didn't appear to be a loyal friend to him (because of course he was being "friends" with her for totally altruistic purposes himself!), or didn't follow through on her business commitments with him, I find it interesting that he doesn't seem to consider the possibility that she didn't fully trust him. Because, while we're on the subject of former "friends" who decided to write tell-all books about their relationship with Sarah, Sarah's psychic Madame Vasso had transcripts of phone conversations in which Sarah said she was uncomfortable with Bryan but basically stayed in a relationship with him because she thought he could help her out of her financial difficulties.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it might be important to consider that Sarah was inconsistent with Allan Starkie and didn't always follow through on her commitments with him partly, yes, because that's her personality, but partly also because she didn't (for good reason, IMO) completely trust him.
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Actually, that's a very good assessment, rmay. Though consider the people Sarah surrounded herself with. Sort of reminds you of Diana, doesn't it? All the tried and true friends being winnowed out and a bunch of hangers on' moving in. That is an occupational hazard when one is in the public eye.
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We really don't hear much about Sarah's friends unless her friend is a man. Does anyone know who her friends are? It's easy to get the impression that, except for Andrew and the Norweigan man, she doesn't have any friends.
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Andrew is her best friend.
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Old 05-20-2010, 05:19 PM
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We really don't hear much about Sarah's friends unless her friend is a man. Does anyone know who her friends are? It's easy to get the impression that, except for Andrew and the Norweigan man, she doesn't have any friends.

Which suggests that either she doesn't have any friends or that she has absolutely great ones who don't talk about being her friend and thus keep her trust and friendship.
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I hope that it's the latter. It would be sad to think that she doesn't have any friends.
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He'd have the same style marriages as Charles.
He could follow Charles path, or he could do as Princess Anne did and marry in the Church of Scotland up at Balmoral. Both are acceptable, although the Scottish solution seems easier and less messy.
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That said, I am sure that if Andrew really wanted to remarry Sarah, he will get the consent of the Queen or Charles, whoever is on the throne.
About as much chance as a snowball in hell after recent events
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Old 06-02-2010, 04:47 AM
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I think the opposite is possible - to prevent further embarassment it would make sense to get her under control and that means being back in the family - I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this convinces Andrew that she needs the protection of being his wife and I suspect that his mother and brother might agree - they can vet what she does and who she sees far more easily from within the family than by having her as a loose cannon.
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Until what happens? Andrew spends a lot of time overseas in Kazakhstan with Goga and Co. and Sarah feels alone by all his trips abroad and decides to rush into the arms of another?
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Old 06-02-2010, 01:48 PM
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About as much chance as a snowball in hell after recent events
And that was said about Charles marrying his mistress.
If he wants to do it, there are ways to get around things.

I wish it doesn't happen, i don't think it will.
She needs to be under control, but not the control of the BRF.
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I think the opposite is possible - to prevent further embarassment it would make sense to get her under control and that means being back in the family - I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this convinces Andrew that she needs the protection of being his wife and I suspect that his mother and brother might agree - they can vet what she does and who she sees far more easily from within the family than by having her as a loose cannon.
I agree with your assessment, Iluvbertie. If they are a couple anyway - and it seems to many of us that they are - offering Sarah "the protection of being his wife" makes perfect sense to me. Such a situation would offer protection to both Sarah and the Royal Family.
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I don't see them re-marrying.
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Nobody is a greater supporter of the monarchy than I. Why on Coronation Day I was in Calcutta and had a Royal Cipher tattoo on my Leg. Still there today!
However I do not support the remarriage of Andrew and Sarah. She alone has destroyed a lot of support in the Commonwealth . Here in Canada not too many like her shenanigans, particularly the money scam she just embarked on.
I believe she should have lost her royal title at least for that fiasco.

Andrew should get on with his life and look for some one with class.
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