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Old 04-11-2007, 03:20 PM
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My understanding is that the correct title would be HRH The Duchess of York, Countess of Inverness and Baroness Killyleagh - just as Camilla is now HRH The Duchess of Cornwall etc - not The Princess Charles, The Duchess of Cornwall.
Yes the Titles of Sarah during the marriage where HRH Princess of the UK, Duchess of York, Countess of Inverness and Baroness Kilyleagh but seh was styled as HRH the Duchess of York. The same for Sophie she is HRH Princess of the UK, Countess of Wessex, Viscounte4ss Severn but styled as HRh the Countess of Wessex.
Members of the Royal Family who have an Ducal or Countly Title are not styled as Prince/Princess like HRH the Duke of York or HRH the Earl of Wessex.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:32 PM
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I suspect that English isn't your first language and therefore the use of words like complication, dimension, innovation etc may be words where the nuances and differences in meaning aren't as clear to you.
You may probably be very right that English is not my first language (hopefully you pointed not as a language discrimination but as clear as you could understand what I mentioned, thanks God for that). Although I have many other first languages other than only English, I am impressed indeed by your usage of English Language.
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Basically - we had a conversation going - you added to it with a new idea and therefore added a new complication to the scenario of Andrew and a new wife.
However to any scenario, I could understand differences between words such as complication, suspect, doubt and renounce are not good words at all, in any kind of conversation. Those words could be isolated in meaning of world language but it still is O.K. That's very much understandable because you are using Very English.
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Do you know of a Queen who isn't currently married who could be eligible for Andrew?
There are Many Gracious Queens around the world who are young and very eligible but Royal Fans may not know they are existed. Even in United States: A Lot. But they are so busy with public works and unable to join or pay much attention to Typical Royal Society. I am thinking to move to U.S. to find one handsome prince for myself. I better help find a princess or a queen for HRH Prince Andrew. Two more good ideas?
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Yes a Queen could marry an unmarried male who is in line to another throne however the precedent set by Prince Philip is that the prince in line to the other throne would probably have to give up his own claim.
Why did Prince Philip has to give up? because British Monarch discriminated him just of being a male prince who married to a queen female?
Seems like if Prince Philip married to a male heir like Camela married to Charles, HRH Prince Philip should have already been a Queen by now?..
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Personally I doubt if the British royals will marry a royal from a ruling house for the simple reason that they don't seem to mix all that much with them any more.
You may probably be right again that British Royals don't seem to mix all that much with a royal anymore as they now marry only to commoners all the time. We all can clearly see that it will soon become Common Monarch with too much common. Shall I say Thank God again?

Bythe way: Thanks for warm welcome, Chrissy. Very Much Appreciated.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:40 PM
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Do you know of a Queen who isn't currently married who could be eligible for Andrew?
I am rooting for Queen Beatrix, after she beated Queen Noor for Andrews attentions ,)
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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Why did Prince Philip has to give up? because British Monarch discriminated him just of being a male prince who married to a queen female?
Seems like if Prince Philip married to a male heir like Camela married to Charles, HRH Prince Philip should have already been a Queen by now?..
Philip renounced his Greek claims for a number of reasons.

He wanted to be a serving officer in the British Navy and to do that he had to be a naturalised citizen (after the war certainly) and no one had actually realised that he was, in fact, a British citizen from birth - that was ruled on in a later court case brought by a Prince of Hannover.

He also realised that in post-WWII Britian the very idea of the heir to the British throne being married to someone who could claim a foreign throne (he was about 4 or 5th in line to the Greek throne at the time) would have gone against him with the people.

He regarded himself as British to a large extent due to his education and upbringing having been so concentrated in Britain.

He was advised to do so by his uncle Lord Mountbatten (and possibly his maternal grandmother who was living in Kensington Palace at the time).

Philip, as a Prince, couldn't become King of Britain through his marriage to Princess (now Queen) Elizabeth. The precedent had clearly been set with Prince Albert, whom Queen Victoria wanted to be given the title of King Consort, but she was advised, by her government, not to do that and being a constitutional monarch she was bound by that advice. Once that precedent had been set the possibility of Philip being King Consort went out the window.

On the other hand - Camilla should be Queen Consort as she will be (if the normal course of events) the wife of the King and the precedent is that the wife of the King is crowned as Queen.
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Old 06-09-2007, 10:54 PM
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If Prince Andrew was married, would he be more popular?

Do you think Andrew would get better (and more) press if he had a new Duchess at his side? I know Edward and Sophie don't get a lot of press, but Andrew did when he was younger and when he was married.
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Old 06-10-2007, 10:00 PM
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I am rooting for Queen Beatrix, after she beated Queen Noor for Andrews attentions ,)
Well if Andrew wanted to rob the cradle, he could go for Crown Princess Victoria.

Can you imagine the beautiful children they would have?
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:16 AM
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Do you think Andrew would get better (and more) press if he had a new Duchess at his side? I know Edward and Sophie don't get a lot of press, but Andrew did when he was younger and when he was married.
I've often thought this, too. I think you would see more and hear more about him if he were married. I don't necessarily agree, but it seems the media is more prone to focusing on what a royal lady is wearing, her weight and hair style, than the somewhat less glamourours duties of a prince. I think we'd see more photos of Andrew out and about (with his wife). Any news on a serious relationship? He's an attractive, seemingly loyal and intelligent guy (not to mention a royal prince). I'm surprised he's not been linked to (or serious about) someone by now.
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Old 06-13-2007, 07:41 AM
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I might be wrong -- in fact, I'd bet on it -- but my impression has always been that Andrew doesn't "settle down" again because he has always loved just Sarah Ferguson, and this seems to me why he can't be involved with a woman seriously and continues to just "date" or whatever, like "all or nothing" kind of thing, if he can't have her than it's not worth it. I think too much has happened to make a remarriage between those two possible, but it would be really cool if they could somehow get back together. By the same token, however, I appreciate that they seem to do better apart. Their own daughters seem to feel this way. I rememeber something eugenie once said about how life got so much better when they were separated, like they are more "like a family now" since her parents separated than they were as married. It seems like Andrew feels very content with the way things are now: being single and free, so to speak, and having his family just like they are. I cannot picture him taking on a fifth wheel and disrupting a status quo that seems very satisfying to him.
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:37 PM
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Who is Goga Ashkenazi? She was with Prince Andrew at the ascot?

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Old 06-23-2007, 04:55 PM
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I think as his daughters get to the point that they are more or less grown he may look for a wife but I agree it's tricky any potential wife for Andrew would want to be certain she is not there just for appearences sake and that he isn't pining for Sarah.I think Sarah has zero interest in returning to the royal fold.
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Old 06-23-2007, 08:41 PM
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Penny Lane, I think you are right about Sarah not wanting to return to the royal family. I just think he has not really cared deeply for any woman since her, and all these supposed flings he has are just to fill time. I like him being single, though. I think he has a good thing right now with his daughters and Sarah and the status quo. If it ain't broke, why fix it ey?
I think this new "socialite" friend of his at Ascot is just that, a new person to laugh and pass time with.
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And to keep this post on topic for this thread I thought of another single lady for Andrew. What about Heather Locklear? I think she'd be perfect for him. She's newly single, beautiful, seems intelligent, doesn't blab to the press, seems to conduct herself in a classy way and I think she's about the same age as Andrew. Now if we can just get her to move to England.
She's dating Jack Wagner and they seem to be very happy. And good for her! I can't believe she was friends with the dim bulb Denise Richards who stole her husband!
I have a customer who's English and she seems to think that Andrew and Fergie will get back together but not until Her Majesty passes. I thought that interesting. Other than that, I think he's quite enjoying his bachelorhood. He is an Aquarian after all!
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I have a customer who's English and she seems to think that Andrew and Fergie will get back together but not until Her Majesty passes.
I harbour a secret yearning for this to be true, but, if it is, they could be waiting a long time!
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:48 PM
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:01 AM
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It seems like Andrew is reverting back to his youth a little--I saw some photos of him partying with two young girls--a blonde one night ,a brunette another. I can't remember where I saw them--Royalty or Hello. Anyway, he looked like he was getting very close to his companions.

I am inclined to agree that Andrew loves Sarah still, and as often as they are together I would not be surprised to learn that there is still something going on. The family as unit functions so well; it amazes me that there is no tension (that we know of).
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:58 AM
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Janet, they were on the Daily Mail site from his Saint Tropez partying. I agree he has never fallen out of love with Sarah, but I don't imagine Sarah will ever join the royal fold again. He loves her and would have her back in a second (I think) and she might love him too but she wants to be free. The royal restrictions were too much for her, I think.
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Well we won't know how Sarah will act until that time comes. He's got to be tired of waiting at some point. Men always are. They like their comfort and they like to have somebody "there". And if she won't commit or get back into the Royal fold, then he will look elsewhere.
Sarah is human after all. I think it will be very interesting to see what happens.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:36 PM
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I agree he has never fallen out of love with Sarah, but I don't imagine Sarah will ever join the royal fold again. He loves her and would have her back in a second (I think) and she might love him too but she wants to be free.
Well said...I agree.

I think QEII and Philip are an obstacle to Andrew and Sarah getting back together. They seem so perfect for each other - even over a decade after they separated!
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:38 PM
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Imo, Sarah and Andrew had a disaster of a marriage the first time so it would be an indication of things to come if they were to remarry. It's awesome they remain friends and great parents. Sarah has created a social life here in America and around the world. The fact she has not been in the company of a man for very long indicates either a personality problem or a health problem,imo.

Andrew, while without a doubt is a very loving and devoted father and a good friend to Sarah, probably also has the abovementioned inabilities to move forward and create a evolved life with Sarah or another woman in Holy Matrimony.
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