The Phillips Children and Titles

[HRHAmy]

I have a question, will Peter ever receive a title? I know his mother didn't want him or his sister to have one but he will inherit his mother's estate one day right?

[sara1981]

Originally Posted by HRHAmy

I have a question, will Peter ever receive a title? I know his mother didn't want him or his sister to have one but he will inherit his mother's estate one day right?

he dont have his titles because his dad dont have titles but his mother is Royals but Zara dont have one also.

but he will known as Master Peter Philips but im not sure about Zara?

[branchg]

Originally Posted by HRHAmy

I have a question, will Peter ever receive a title? I know his mother didn't want him or his sister to have one but he will inherit his mother's estate one day right?

I think it's very unlikely The Queen would grant Peter a title at this point, especially since the trend is to "downsize" the monarchy, but it's entirely within her gift as the Sovereign and fount of honour.

If it did happen, it would probably be an earldom upon marriage.

[Georgia]

I think Peter Phillips is quite happy the way his life is. He doesn't need a title, he will always be Queen Elizabeth II eldest grandchild. On top of which, when William is King he wont have the criticism that the present Queen's cousins receive.

[Heidi P.]

Georgia,
I agree with you, I think Peter Phillips is happy as a regular guy.

[HRH Kimetha]

Originally Posted by chrissy57

As Princess Anne refused a title for her husband, with his approval, before Peter was born (one that he would have inherited - like Princess Margaret's son will inherit his father's title) I doubt very much that the Queen will give her grandson a title.

Let me understand this. The Queen asked Princess Anne if she wanted Mark Phillips to have a title? It sounds rather snobbish. What were the circumstances behind her refusal and his approval?


Finally off of that subject, does anyone know if either of Peter's parents encouraged him in pursuing the equestrian sport like Zara?

[chrissy57]

Originally Posted by HRH Kimetha

Let me understand this. The Queen asked Princess Anne if she wanted Mark Phillips to have a title? It sounds rather snobbish. What were the circumstances behind her refusal and his approval?


Finally off of that subject, does anyone know if either of Peter's parents encouraged him in pursuing the equestrian sport like Zara?

At the time of their wedding the Queen was prepared to confer a title on Mark, which would have allowed their children to have titles ala Princess Margaret's children.

This offer was refused by the couple.

I probably should have worded my original post better as it implied that it was Princess Anne who refused the title for Mark whereas I believe it was a joint decision by both of them. That is certainly the way I remember it from 1973.

Having refused a title, and therefore the possibility of an inherited title for Peter in 1973, I don't see Anne being supportive of the Queen conferring a title on Peter now.

Whether he wants a title - to make him a bit more equal to his cousins - I don't know. If he does want one, maybe he could approach Granny on his own behalf. I suspect, that even if he did, the answer may very well be 'no' as his mother doesn't have an inheritable title in her own right. The title Princess Royal is for the eldest daughter of the monarch and has to be recreated each time.

[MichaelG]

I understand that both Peter and Zara Phillips are much admired members of their family, and not having a title does not diminish this admiration in any way. Increases it, if anything. When The Princess of Wales died, William apparently sought, and received, a great deal of support and comfort from Peter Phillips, whom he looks upon as a wise elder brother. Both the Phillips children seem to have inherited their mother's "no nonsense" and down to earth approach to life-attributes, no doubt greatly appreciated in the rarified court atmosphere. In some sense , they have the best of all possible worlds.