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Old 11-16-2008, 07:23 AM
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I have said it always, the time puts everything in its place. The Princess Letizia has been the easy aim, in order that they were criticizing some to the Monarchy and were doing money. But the people are bored, the Princess isn´t the culprit of all the males of the royal family. The majority of the news on her are gossips, ridiculous histories or out of context. And ultimately the people get bored with these things, which initially seemed funny , now it infuriates. And it infuriates because the Princess with her attitude and her work is demonstrating that she is not who they pledged in describing.

The reality is that the Princess does her work of serious and discreet form, often doing what seems to be impossible, that her husband and not she is the one that catches the attention. There is unanimity in which with she the Prince is a more nearby person and of which she is raising two happy and polite well girls. She has not done awkward declarations, has created neither political discussions, nor diplomatic problems, is not the wasteful one...

The reality is that they have been other members of the Royal Family those who have provoked serious controversies. He was the King the one that said " "¿Por qué no te callas? " to another Chief of State in an International Summit, she was the Infanta Elena the one that separated, was the Queen the one that took part in a book with polemic declarations... in comparison with it the gossips on the Princess are anecdotes without transcendency.
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Old 11-16-2008, 10:06 AM
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If Letizia were my future queen, I would be very proud and happy. She is beautiful, has great style, is an excellent mother. She and Felipe seem to be very much in love. She is mother to two beautiful Infantas. Why would anyone want to find fault?
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Old 11-16-2008, 11:25 AM
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If Letizia were my future queen, I would be very proud and happy. She is beautiful, has great style, is an excellent mother. She and Felipe seem to be very much in love. She is mother to two beautiful Infantas. Why would anyone want to find fault?
Beats me, Almab. Whenever I see pictures of Letizia and Felipe amongst spaniards, I see people who look genuinely HAPPY to be in their presence. They get throngs of people greeting them to whatever event they are doing.

Felipe and Letizia will make good monarchs. He has the woman he loves by his side and they have their beautiful daughters that they love and adore.
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:37 PM
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i just wonder why the crown princess does not seem to have a solo engagement..all i see on all royal blogs are the two of them together..and i haven't heard leticia speak in public (so far) unlike the others...too bad since she used to be a journalist..wouldn't it be nice to hear her speeches???just wondering
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:01 PM
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i just wonder why the crown princess does not seem to have a solo engagement..all i see on all royal blogs are the two of them together..and i haven't heard leticia speak in public (so far) unlike the others...too bad since she used to be a journalist..wouldn't it be nice to hear her speeches???just wondering
Letizia has had about 15 solo engagements this year, you can find information and photos of them from this thread:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...-18668-20.html
Letizia´s speeches can be found here:
Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España/Princesa/Discursos y mensajes
Maybe you can find videos of Letizia´s speeches in Youtube, try there.
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Old 07-31-2009, 09:45 PM
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If there is a male child now, there will forever be doubt as to his moral right to the throne, if not his legal right. He may ascend to the throne, but he won't be the real heir.
Then Felipe is not the rightful heir to the throne, as Elena is the first born is the same thing. IMO, a male heir should be produced. Becuase otherwise it wont be fair to Elena and little Felipe.

But then again, I believe that she is the one that should ascend to the throne as the first born, and her son as Prince of Asturias. But sadly that won't happen.

I've been out of Spain for 3 years now and to be honest I haven't followed what the yellow press say. But I know about Peñafiel and other republicans that make a living of criticsizing poor Letizia. The woman is trying her best and she's doing a good job. She's not a 100% of my liking, I can't really see the woman as a queen. But that's not an excuse to insult her.

About the relationship with the family I can't know, as pictures is one thing and what goes behind the scenes is another thing. But of what I see, everybody seem to ignore the Asturias. I haven't seen Juan Carlos being all nice and sweet with the girls as he is with Pablo and Miguel.

Her appearance, OMG what has the CR done to this woman? IS not her anymore and it makes me worry about her health. She looks so sick and fragile. But that's another thing and I don't want to get in trouble here. But I worry that all the pressure is taking its toll on her.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:57 PM
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i just wonder why the crown princess does not seem to have a solo engagement..all i see on all royal blogs are the two of them together..and i haven't heard leticia speak in public (so far) unlike the others...too bad since she used to be a journalist..wouldn't it be nice to hear her speeches???just wondering
I think it is ok if she doesn't do a lot of solo engagements. Queen Silvia has said that she and her husband enjoy doing engagements together rather than apart. Each couple is different. They really work hard for their country.
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I really do not think that Letizia is unhappy.
She is a serious person and she wants to do her job very well, so some times she might feel stressed, because she has not been grown into royalty and she has to catch some missing thinks, but it does not make her unhappy in her life.

She is married to a handsome guy who loves her and he was ready to give up to his rights for her, he still loves her and supports her, and she has two sweet girls. She is young, and if she really wants to have a boy, they can try to have it, where is the big deal???? Queen Sofia had Felipe years after his sisters, and at this time it was really a drama not having a male...
And in any case if they do not have a boy, it is biologically due to the father...

Secondly, she seems to do better and better her job, press is really recognizing it, this is also a success!

The only point which could provoke criticisms is her humble origin , but in the name of God! she is not responsible and she can not change it! Pcs Felipe has chosen her, it is not her fault!

Her way to dress is quite nice (not always for me but 95%) the most of times. I do not understand about the bikini, what happened? Where is the critisicm?

Generally speeking, she seems trying a lot, why we should blame her? They are other royal born... who succeed much less than her!
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Her way to dress is quite nice (not always for me but 95%) the most of times. I do not understand about the bikini, what happened? Where is the critisicm?
Two summers ago, two paparazzi photographers climbed the hills for about 2 hours, were able take pictures of Letizia in bikini and Queen Sofia in swimsuit at the military island with high power lenses, the pictures were sold to Hola for about 300K Euro. There were not much criticism except some ultra right thought royals should never wear bikinis, or few yellow press journalists who were extremely jealous of these two photographers collecting so much money. At least the two worked hard for their pictures, not like them simply sitting at the comfortable studios gossiping.
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Two summers ago, two paparazzi photographers climbed the hills for about 2 hours, were able take pictures of Letizia in bikini and Queen Sofia in swimsuit at the military island with high power lenses, the pictures were sold to Hola for about 300K Euro. There were not much criticism except some ultra right thought royals should never wear bikinis, or few yellow press journalists who were extremely jealous of these two photographers collecting so much money. At least the two worked hard for their pictures, not like them simply sitting at the comfortable studios gossiping.
Thanks!

Both Infantas Christina & Elena wear bikinis.
CP Mary wears bikini
Both Sweddish Princesses wear bikini
Monaco princesses wear bikini
And late Pcs Diana was wearing bikini, even in advanced pregnancy, if I'm not wrong!
(I do not know about the other British princesses, but they'w better not to wear bikinis)
So why Letizia, who has an amazing figure, should not wear a bikini????????

By the way, does someone has this pictures?? I never saw them
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By the way, does someone has this pictures?? I never saw them
There is one here.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/File0001.jpg

lula might have other pictures. The old links posted by her no longer works.
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There is one here.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/File0001.jpg

lula might have other pictures. The old links posted by her no longer works.
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So THIS is the big deal? Absolutely amazing figure, very creect and classy bathsuit.
People is stupid,

Letizia Go ahead!!!!! you are super!
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The critizism is likely to increase for Queen Letizia what imo has to do with her perfection predecessor, Queen Sofia.

I think it's safe to say that Sofia has had huge impact on where Spain (as a democracy) and the Spanish monarchy are today. She is the perfect royal, equipped with the right genealogy and especially with the right attitude to be a consort: it's always about the monarchy, never about personal issues. Sofia never thought twice when it came down to self-sacrifice for the sake of the monarchy, and that includes an unhappy marriage, because this is the way she was brought up.

It may well be that "perfect" royals like Sofia, QE II or Beatrix will be extinct soon, simply because their successors, even the royal-born ones, have become too "normal". Especially women like Letizia who grew up with the right of self-fulfillment and personal freedom as a matter of course, will struggle simply because they are not used to the fact that these goods will be lost forever when becoming a royal.

Especially the situation is Spain where the monarchy is not such a fast-selling item like in other countries and is unlikely to ever become one, it is inevitable that people will compare the achievements and personal sacrifices of Queen Sofia for the sake of the country and the monarchy to what a Queen Letizia will achieve or will be willing to sacrifice. It doesn't take rocket science to figure out that Letizia will be struggling as Queen since she has already been stuggling as PoA, simply because she's lacking Queen Sofia's "equipment", see above. But to be fair, almost anyone would, especially in Spain.

On her engagment day, when Letizia still was self-confident and did some bossy talking, she said that it would be her aim to follow "the priceless example of the Queen" - I guess she is still figuring out what that actually means, every single day of her life when trying to please the Spanish people.
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I don´t hurt the criticize to Letizia .There are journalists in Spain that they are friend of Letizia, who think that critize to the Queen , their friend Letizia could be more admire by people . I think that Letizia will have that strive to live up to the Queen and not to Conversely ....
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Duke, I think 80% of the criticism was from the old man Jaime Penafiel, once this old man is gone (nobody could live forever), 80% of the criticism would be gone , I doubt she wil be criticized more in the future, it's already less, I guess people are pretty much sick of 'She was divorced', 'Her grandpa was a taxi driver' in about every criticism of this old man. Plus as Letizia gets older, her clothes or shoes would be less of the public interests, wouldn't be the main talk of the tabloid shows.
Queen Sofia was also being criticized for her bad Spanish, being aloof when she was young. Her popularity only went up after the incident in 1992 (you know what I'm talking about). She belongs to another era when the media was more restricted and no internet. I seriously doubt her marriage would have survived with today's media.
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The reality is that the topic of which the Queen Sofia " is perfect " is very questionable, and used often by certain journalists to criticize and to underestimate the princess.

Initially of her arrival to Spain the Queen was criticized hardly, for many years she was considered to be a rigid and cold woman, and only the arrival of the grandchildren was capable of modifying this image of her. After a few years of good popularity, of image of sweet grandmother and solidary woman, the published in the book in her 70 birthdays and some absences like that of this summer in Mallorca, have returned to demonstrate that she is not so perfect.

The Princess is the innovation, is young, attractive, has two beautiful daughters ... and her image assures success of sales of the magazines. But it will pass and the press will have a new aim.
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The Princess is the innovation, is young, attractive, has two beautiful daughters ... and her image assures success of sales of the magazines. But it will pass and the press will have a new aim.
Yes but it will only be a shift within the family: the new aim will be Letizia's daughters when they get older (fortunately for the media they both are girls and people love to gossip about looks), and finally Leonor's husband, whoever the poor guy will be. Anything that is wrong with the kids will be blamed on their mother anyway and to see your kids becoming the centre of polemic might be even more unpleasant as being targeted yourself.

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Let's agree to disagree here. Sofia origines from an environment that makes her put up with everything as long as it serves the purpose what is the long-term survival of the Spanish monarchy. Examples range from her Don Juan at home to the plebejan daughter-in-law she certainly never had in mind for Felipito. The fragility of the Spanish monarchy has the potential to ask for similar sacrifices in the future, who knows. Sofia was well prepared in that sense.
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I want specify.I don´t blame of it to Letizia.I blame to her journalists friends .For me Jaime Peñafiel and Mariangeles Alcazar are equals..He against Letizia and She against the Queen.They make very evil to institution of Monarchy.
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