The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #81  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:14 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
Yes, she offer a few interviews for a ridiculous amount of money stating 'she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince'; a photo session horse riding and posing with designer clothes. At that time she was single and wanted to offer a good image of herself.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:24 PM
catango's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tolima, Colombia
Posts: 544
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
Yes, she offer a few interviews for a ridiculous amount of money stating 'she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince'; a photo session horse riding and posing with designer clothes. At that time she was single and wanted to offer a good image of herself.

That isn't true, This rumors come from that HATEFUL forum where everyone say rude and hideous things about princess Letizia family, I have been there, and I can't tell you I t is a lie, so please try to be objetive and don't repeit things that crazy people say.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
She was paid to pose with her sister and family at her sister's engagement! Is this right? Or do you mean she did her own separate photoshoot?
Of course not, but there is always someone who likes to post ridiculous lies on the internet. Do you think the SRF would have allowed this to happen ? LOL
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:37 PM
lula's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , Spain
Posts: 16,228
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
Yes, she offer a few interviews for a ridiculous amount of money stating 'she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince'; a photo session horse riding and posing with designer clothes. At that time she was single and wanted to offer a good image of herself.
IT IS TOTAL AND ABSOLUTELY A LIE

Thelma Ortiz has never charged for appearing in no place, all the images that the press has obtained of her have been because they have chased her.

Only in two occasions Thelma Ortiz has appear in public acts for own will, in the presentation of a book of the Red Cross together with a child of the war of Africa, and gathering a prize that they were giving to her grandmother who was sick.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:40 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
Look, I obviously respect that opinions, but I receive the magazine Hola in my office everyday and I saw at the time the pictures of Thelma Ortiz saying 'that she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince' posing with designer clothes.

At that time she had a date with one of the prince's friends. The same that later dated Anne Lagartiburu.
I remember it quite well because I phone one of my friends to ask about details. There is nothing wrong to pose for a magazine with designer clothes. It is both glamorous and good business.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:42 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,681
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
She was paid to pose with her sister and family at her sister's engagement! Is this right? Or do you mean she did her own separate photoshoot?
Separate paid photoshoot like many other even royal quests on events like this... Get real

So we have lesson on Telma's case (terrible that she can't stay in privacy just because she is celebrity by the fact of her big sis marriage)... if you wan stay as a private person you should ask your sister or brother about her/ his fiance's family.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #87  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:46 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,291
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
Look, I obviously respect that opinions, but I receive the magazine Hola in my office everyday and I saw at the time the pictures of Thelma Ortiz saying 'that she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince' posing with designer clothes.

At that time she had a date with one of the prince's friends. The same that later dated Anne Lagartiburu.
I remember it quite well because I phone one of my friends to ask about details. There is nothing wrong to pose for a magazine with designer clothes. It is glamorous and a chic business.
It's perfect normal if Telma knew some of her brother-in-law's friends and had dated one of them, this has happened to many families out there. But Telma had never posed for any magazine in designer clothes, absolutely nothing like that, otherwise I bet those defense lawyers would have used to go against her this time.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #88  
Old 05-16-2008, 04:53 PM
catango's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tolima, Colombia
Posts: 544
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
Look, I obviously respect that opinions, but I receive the magazine Hola in my office everyday and I saw at the time the pictures of Thelma Ortiz saying 'that she belonged to the same circle of friends as the prince' posing with designer clothes.

At that time she had a date with one of the prince's friends. The same that later dated Anne Lagartiburu.
I remember it quite well because I phone one of my friends to ask about details. There is nothing wrong to pose for a magazine with designer clothes. It is both glamorous and good business.

You are talking about HOLA magazine, haha, it is OBVIOUS that you don't read SERIOUS press from Spain, now I understand all you have said.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #89  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:00 PM
lula's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , Spain
Posts: 16,228
Sincerely I believe that you do not know by no means to the Spanish press. The press obtains images of the people in the street, harasses them to questions or they invent histories on them ... but it does not mean that these persons appear in a magazine voluntarily and less that they charge for it.

She did not grant any of these declarations, was the press the one that decided to catch up with friends of the Prince. They decided that she was a golden spinster, and looked for her couple, but she never had a relation with any of them, and she never married Alberto of Monaco.

Thelma has never posed like a model in any magazine. Neither she has granted any interview.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #90  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:14 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
Unfortunately for her, she did and this has been taking into consideration by the judge. It is impossible to ask for privacy when you have been paid to pose horse riding in Asturias and in her appartment saying 'that she had friends in common with the prince'. Which in fact it was true at the time. But it lacks certain coherence. That is why she has to pay at least 50.000 euros for the trial against 54 media companies. Most of them had never published anything from her.

There are two types of press. Elite and 'popular press' of course. I guess same as here in England. Though not so yellowish for sure.

In the early years of the democracy, the press moved from being censored and a propaganda tool of Franco's dictatorship to a more 'free press'. The censorship is yet present to a certain degree unfortunately.

The King and Queen have never had any problem with it nor the 'infantas' and their families. Certain members of hig-class families pay not to be in the press and nothing has ever been published of them.

I understand it absolutely impossible for foreigners to understand the socieconomical background of Spain and its culture.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #91  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:23 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: -, Ireland
Posts: 630
Quote:
Originally Posted by magnik View Post
Separate paid photoshoot like many other even royal quests on events like this... Get real .
I have read and re-read this many times but I can't get what you mean - are you saying she did and that many other family members of soon to be princesses have done the same?

Quote:
Unfortunately for her, she did and this has been taking into consideration by the judge. It is impossible to ask for privacy when you have been paid to pose horse riding in Asturias and in her appartment saying 'that she had friends in common with the prince'.
Do you happen to have a copy of the interview or a link to the photoshoot you say she did?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #92  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:25 PM
lula's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , Spain
Posts: 16,228
You are repeating lies again and again.

She has never granted an interview in her apartment speaking about her boyfriends (Neither she said that she was going to marry Alberto of Monaco it invented the German press), and the photos in horse were taken by paparazzi, like there are hundreds of photos of her taken by paparazzi without her assent.

I believe that you should check your sources of information, and to learn like it works the press and the magazines in Spain before continuing lying.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #93  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:25 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,681
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
Unfortunately for her, she did and this has been taking into consideration by the judge. It is impossible to ask for privacy when you have been paid to pose horse riding in Asturias and in her appartment saying 'that she had friends in common with the prince'. Which in fact it was true at the time. But it lacks certain coherence. That is why she has to pay at least 50.000 euros for the trial against 54 media companies. Most of them had never published anything from her.
So you had read everything what they had wrote even about her in last years?

Quote:
There are two types of press. Elite and 'popular press' of course. I guess same as here in England. Though not so yellowish for sure.
Two types of press are not only in England btw.

Quote:
In the early years of the democracy, the press moved from being censored and a propaganda tool of Franco's dictatorship to a more 'free press'. The censorship is yet present to a certain degree unfortunately.
In Poland we have censor too by 50 years. Now we have democracy and yellow/pink press too. There's something like ethics.

Quote:
The King and Queen have never had any problem with it nor the 'infantas' and their families. Certain members of hig-class families pay not to be in the press and nothing has ever been published of them.
Rumours about King's affairs.

Quote:
I understand it absolutely impossible for foreigners to understand the socieconomical background of Spain and its culture.
So you understand it?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #94  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:30 PM
magnik's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,681
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
I have read and re-read this many times but I can't get what you mean - are you saying she did and that many other family members of soon to be princesses have done the same?
Sorry Amelia.
I try to say (with little ironic) that if the press pay Telma for her separate photoshoot on Letizia's wedding than they (press) must done it and will do for any royal or non royal guests on event like royal/noble wedding, baptisms...
Now it's little clear?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #95  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:50 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: -, Ireland
Posts: 630

Yes, thank you magnik
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #96  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:50 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
I have never spoken about the wedding. But after the announcement, Letizia's family were a major focus of interest. Her mother's sindicalist office, her father's girlfriend, her sister's friends, etc. She was in a private interview speaking about her common friends with the Prince as a reason of how Letizia integrated in his group of friends. I read the inteview at the time and I thought it was boring. Same with the designer dresses and her horse riding pictures admiting she was still learning. I read the magazine and had a look at the pictures. And that is it. The same as I will be doing every week when the press arrives to the office.

I think if unemployed Thelma has to pay now up to 50.000 euros for the trial costs it is somehow deserved to the extent of having offered paid interviews in the past. I do understand the socioeconomical background of Spain after 25 years living in Spain and two degrees. But I am obvioulsy no expert and I am open to opinions and critical analysis.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #97  
Old 05-16-2008, 05:52 PM
catango's Avatar
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tolima, Colombia
Posts: 544
Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessAna View Post
I have never spoken about the wedding. But after the announcement, Letizia's family were a major focus of interest. Her mother's sindicalist office, her sister's friends, etc. She was in a private interview speaking about her common friends with the Prince as a reason of how Letizia integrated in his group of friends. I read the inteview at the time and I thought it was boring. Same with the designer dresses and her horse riding pictures admiting she was still learning. I read the magazine and had a look at the pictures. And that is it. The same as I will be doing every week when the press arrives to the office.
You know as a journalist you are a hopeless case.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #98  
Old 05-16-2008, 06:05 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
I really do not understand why. To be honest I worked at a newspaper in Spain and I remember the Royals were a tabu subject. So you cannot really lecture me about that. Censorship was the law, thankfully I do not write for spanish press anymore. That was goebbelian!
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #99  
Old 05-16-2008, 06:08 PM
lula's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , Spain
Posts: 16,228
I believe that there is something that you do not understand. You confuse an interview with the fact that a person does an article with information, photos taken for paparazzis, or gossips that they have found in some place.

Yes, initially they did questions to her since they were done to all the relatives of the princess. Yes, she appeared going out of the shop of the designer who did her suit for the wedding, but she never posed for a magazine. And the photos in horse were done by paparazzi.

Evidently if you have groups of journalists chasing you the whole day and ask constant, initially for patience and education you answer, until they go over the limits.

Thelma has never charged for appearing in a magazine, and nobody in the judgment has said it. And are well-read dozens of chronicles.

Certainly, a very curious opinion with regard to the judgment.

Ana Belén: en la prensa del corazón 'sales cuando se les pone en el cogote'

Ana Belén: in the pink magazines ' you go out when it puts on them in the nape '

The singer Ana Belén appeared today in disagreement with which the protection demand has been scorned to the image presented by Telma Ortiz, sister of the princess of Asturias, and affirmed that in the pink magazines ' you go out when it puts on them in the nape '.

' When I read in the press that some attorney of the imputed parts us put from example to me and to Miguel Ríos, I thought, that hypocrisy!, because, I have passed years in which the same people have insulted me, for saying not, for protecting my children, who did not have to suffer that their parents were known '.

She added in the matter that to try to protect her children supposed her, in many cases ' the insult. Then, putting to meet as example of look, which do not want to go out in the press, they do not go out, it is not true. Your you are going to go out providing that it puts on them in the nape and they are not going to respect anything '.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #100  
Old 05-16-2008, 06:14 PM
PrincessAna's Avatar
Commoner
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Posts: 43
It is true that Ana Belen's children were never in the press. SAme with many famous families and also with most high-class families.
No news, no pictures, anything.
I read the interviews given by Thelma and I am not going to argue anything else about it. To me, it was of no interest and I have to say I preffered Erika's attitude of silence and that she never reply any magazine's proposals. Letizia has given a few interviews mostly to EL Pais, same again next sunday.
__________________

__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Victoria and the Press / Paparazzi Josefine Crown Princess Victoria, Prince Daniel and Family 27 07-24-2010 06:10 PM
Paparazzi : Are they all bad ? TheTruth Royal Chit Chat 25 12-09-2009 02:17 AM




Additional Links
Popular Tags
abdication birth birthday bourbon-parma camilla charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria danish royals engagement fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri habsburg hereditary grand duchess stéphanie hereditary grand duke guillaume hohenzollern infanta elena king abdullah king abdullah ii king albert ii king carl xvi gustav king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander norway picture thread pom pregnancy prince albert prince albert ii prince constantijn prince felipe prince felix prince frederik prince henrik prince joachim princess princess alexia (2005 -) princess ariane princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess haya princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess madeleine princess marie princess mary princess maxima princess of orange queen elizabeth ii queen mathilde queen maxima queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal russia state visit wedding willem-alexander william


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:07 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]