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Old 01-15-2014, 02:55 PM
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Duke, El Mundo has a whole section devoted to absolute gossip. Before they published gossip news on Saturdays, now every day in their online edition. And always Spanish newspaper have a gossip section.

In the end they are all the same ... some writing in Vanitatis write in El Mundo, and participate in the same television programs commenting gossip. It's a real mafia in which they feed off each other, because in the end they are all the same and the only thing that matters is to continue to have prominence, publicity and easy money. It is unfortunate to see how some of these people have degraded their profession in recent years, only to continue making money.

Donna, the most paradoxical is that who say these things on TV, ask those people on twitter where they have seen the Prince and Princess.
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You'll find 'trashy gossips' all over this board, its not exclusive for Letizia, Mette-Marit & Haakon being the latest example. Its the old discussion about the 'credible source', I am not saying that Vanitatis is the most credible source on this planet but even 'serious' newspapers like El Mundo or El Pais are printing those stories, having different motivations, I guess. Everybody is free to believe what they want anyway. I think this forum is very civil when talking about royals, including Letizia, there are far more trashy forums out there than this one.
All over this board with stories on other royals from similar websites like Vanitatis or trashy magazines ? Where ? Except for some sugary stories from the sugary magazines, I don't see many stories about other royals on this board.

People were bringing in the stories of Haakon and MM because they were on the super sugary royal magazines like Hola/Hello, on the internet. Of course the Norwegian media were not allowed to comment on rumors even though it seemed they really wanted to.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:05 PM
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DOM: there are far more trashy forums out there than this one.

Oh how right you are, one really makes me scared for the royals for they are very dangerous and threatening...............if royals knew about them, they should be cautious.
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:30 PM
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From Bekia,obviously these guys are 'experts'

Alfredo Urdaci en 'Abre los ojos y mira': "Veo a la Princesa Letizia muy seria desde hace dos años" - Bekia
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Old 01-27-2014, 12:24 PM
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Obviously you read gossips and want to believe the worst ones, otherwise how could you know she went out every weekend with her friends ? Did you see her and her friends personally ? The yellow press tends to exaggerate things all the time
Sorry, but your opinion about me is totally wrong because I NEVER read gossips, it is not my style at all.

It is not necessary to belong to Letizia's group in order to know about her. She is the Princess of Asturias so, it is impossible for her to have a total private life. She can not hide from people when she goes here or there.

You ask me how I know about her. Well, as I told before, I am not going to speak here about my life or my sources. You and others must know that people working for the Royal House including bodyguards dont belong to yellow press....They all are very serious and responsible people and their opinions are not gossips at all. On the contrary, they all have a REAL vision of her.

And that is all I am going to tell about this subject.
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Old 01-27-2014, 01:20 PM
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They all can buzz off, going out with friends, you know, people who are not involved in the court, is imo a good thing. At least there are people she can trust and not gossip to random people about her free time. I´m pretty sure the kids are not neglected and Felipe not an old fashioned man who wants his wife cutting off everyone.

And btw it´s not long ago when rumours of MM being unfaithul occured. O mon dieu.. (not that I do believe them though, I have sadly no insiders in a palace).
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Sorry, but your opinion about me is totally wrong because I NEVER read gossips, it is not my style at all.

It is not necessary to belong to Letizia's group in order to know about her. She is the Princess of Asturias so, it is impossible for her to have a total private life. She can not hide from people when she goes here or there.

You ask me how I know about her. Well, as I told before, I am not going to speak here about my life or my sources. You and others must know that people working for the Royal House including bodyguards dont belong to yellow press....They all are very serious and responsible people and their opinions are not gossips at all. On the contrary, they all have a REAL vision of her.

And that is all I am going to tell about this subject.
Sure you never read gossips, but your previous posts looked like the recaps of Vanitatis.

I don't think Letizia wants a total private life, but every public needs a certain degree of privacy. A certain sector of the Spanish press accusing Letizia not willing to be a 7/24 royal is completely silly since there is no 7/24 on-duty royal in this world, every royal has a break, most of them have disappeared much more often and longer than Letizia. Letizia is one of the very few royals who actually has public events every week, thus has been seen in public every week except for the summer/winter break.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:34 AM
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Some articles in the mainstream press (is there any mainstream press left in Spain, without an agenda?)
El Mundo writes as well about a couple in crisis

http://www.elmundo.es/opinion/2014/0...d538b457a.html
http://www.lavozlibre.com/noticias/a...avan-su-crisis

Its about the often mentioned 'rebellion' or disagreements in public,
I have spoken with at least three senior government officials in recent times who have witnessed fights between Don Felipe and Doña Letizia . A high political leader of Madrid told me how Letizia mocked publicly and loudly the other day about the lack of wit of her husband when he said "We are errands " because the protocol made ​​them wait .

but the article also recognises a specific character strength:
"Letizia, rejected by the King and the Infantas, continues the history of masochistic queens of Spain"
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:06 PM
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[/I]but the article also recognises a specific character strength:
"Letizia, rejected by the King and the Infantas, continues the history of masochistic queens of Spain"
It says "she refused, and did well, to continue the masochistic history of the queens of Spain".

This article is really a mystery, people only read the gossip about the crisis, but I think he mean other things but does not say then openly. It also speaks of intrigues, London and mentions certain historical figures.

In recent days, in response to these rumors are emerging for the first time voices saying that this is an attack on the Prince and Princess, the enemy is at Zarzuela and that the aim is to prevent the abdication.
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Letizia, more serious and distant than ever.
The difficult situation of the monarchy reflects on her attitude, more cold with Felipe, and plain in her way of dressing.

So, all of the mags are pro JC? And when the day comes, they will all switch and be pro Felipe and sell the sugar?
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:09 AM
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Magazines are of money and Letizia is money. This week write this, and next week may write the opposite. All the interpretation of Diez Minutos is that she is serious and distant, because she wears repeated clothing and dark colors ... quite absurd.

Since January last year, and with the appearance of the word abdication, the gossip machinery is directed to question Letizia and her marriage, because it really is the only way that is left for those who want to keep Juan Carlos in power or those who want to end the monarchy. In the end these two extremes are uniting in a common purpose. What happened is the first week in January activated again the machinery more harshly than ever.

I think it is not even the press ... there are very important political and economic interests, and are the people who manage those interests that are moving this.
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Well, lets face it, the "bad-mouthing" of Letizia is certainly taking the heat off of Cristina. One has to wonder if this is the true reason for this silliness being increased. The haters are lucky she hasn't turned on them----I am sure with her inside knowledge, she could "topple the crown". Me, at her age, I would have destroyed them all by now for being so weak and letting them try to defame me. Especially wimp Felipe.
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Old 01-29-2014, 11:19 AM
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Sure you never read gossips, but your previous posts looked like the recaps of Vanitatis.

I don't think Letizia wants a total private life, but every public needs a certain degree of privacy. A certain sector of the Spanish press accusing Letizia not willing to be a 7/24 royal is completely silly since there is no 7/24 on-duty royal in this world, every royal has a break, most of them have disappeared much more often and longer than Letizia. Letizia is one of the very few royals who actually has public events every week, thus has been seen in public every week except for the summer/winter break.
Sorry Donna, I dont understand what you mean... What is Vanitatis??

Of course, Royals dont have to stay 24 hours a day on their royal duties. But the problem of Letizia is that she wants to be "princess" with a schedule. Being princess or queen require to be available even during weekends.
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:01 PM
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Queen Sofia has a complete week away and nothing happens, there are queens and princesses having three or four acts in one week and then disappear for weeks and nothing happens. Normally acts on weekend are few to any member of royalty.

The legend that Letizia works fron 8 to 3 and does not work on weekends is totally false... and invented by Vanitatis.

Princess Letizia usually has at least two events every week, never has a full week without events, only in the Christmas, Easter and Summer holidays.
When she has to go to an event at the weekend, she goes. But besides princess, she is a mother, and it makes sense if she prefers to have events during the week and spend the weekend with her daughters.
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The birthday of the Prince has become a campaign ... Prince Felipe does his job very well, but their marriage is in crisis, and Letizia is a problem.

Someone on Zarzuela, that never said anything about private live (unless it serve to attack Letizia) seems to have helped telling press that the marriage has "ups and downs".

El pulso entre las fotos y los rumores sobre Don Felipe y Doa Letizia - ABC.es

Zarzuela dice que en el matrimonio del Prncipe 'slo hay altibajos' | Espaa | EL MUNDO

And there are others who directly have very clear this story...

"They want to avoid the abdication of the king at the cost of breaking the marriage of the Prince"

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"They talk about the ups and downs of the PoA´s marriage, but they shut up about the King´s downs"

Sorry, I dislike a lot FJL, but I had to laugh after that quote

It´s so obvious for everybody right now, that it´s quite pathetic, IMO
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What marriage hasnt up and downs, let alone those in the public eye. The crisis story is BS and I dont believe that anyone is falling for it. IMO this marriage will never break, even if the pressure on the personal relation will prove too much in the coming years, they will pull through it just like King and Queen, simply because both have invested far too much to give up, ever.

Another story I dont get is that of the rings, the wedding ring has nothing to do with the corruption scandal, this supposedly applies to the engagement ring only, so why does this rumor persist that Letizia doesnt wear her wedding ring anymore because of Inaki. Thats BS too. There must be other reasons why she stopped wearing it, but I wouldnt go as far to say she did because the marriage is in crisis. Its weird though, because Felipe wears his and taking it off will always invite speculation.
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What marriage hasnt up and downs, let alone those in the public eye. The crisis story is BS and I dont believe that anyone is falling for it. IMO this marriage will never break, even if the pressure on the personal relation will prove too much in the coming years, they will pull through it just like King and Queen, simply because both have invested far too much to give up, ever.

Another story I dont get is that of the rings, the wedding ring has nothing to do with the corruption scandal, this supposedly applies to the engagement ring only, so why does this rumor persist that Letizia doesnt wear her wedding ring anymore because of Inaki. Thats BS too. There must be other reasons why she stopped wearing it, but I wouldnt go as far to say she did because the marriage is in crisis. Its weird though, because Felipe wears his and taking it off will always invite speculation.

Whilst the absent wedding ring maybe a cause for nasty gossip,there could also be another reason.Letizia does look like she's in good shape and exercises,it may not fit her any more or else she doesn't like wearing jewelry.
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The theme of the ring is stupid ... stupid as claiming that she wants to have a private life, or go out with her ​​friends as something bad. They are absurd arguments. This time the campaign is worse than ever, as they need arguments, so they use anything even that is absurd or unreasonable.

The problem is that according to the Spanish press, a princess must be a woman of another century, to remain quiet, in the background and folded to the wishes of her husband, without voice or opinion. Many say she must be like other princesses, and thus show that they have no idea ... any princess has a more independent and influential life than Letizia.

This is no longer a topic of gossip, newspapers and serious journalists who are attacking Letizia mercilessly. There is a major campaign, with Zarzuela helping. Letizia is just the easy victim, the tool for other purposes.
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Never mind how many newspapers talk about their ups and downs. Letizia has no worn her marriage ring since time ago, why ?? She always wore it in the past.

Why she makes fun of Felipe in public events ?. Lot of Spanish authorities and political journalists are eyewitnesses. Doing that is not polite at all....And please, dont tell me the rest of princesses do that with their husbands.
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