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Old 10-09-2007, 08:42 AM
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Default Princess Letizia's separate agenda

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Old 10-09-2007, 02:43 PM
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I am not in Spain and do not want to make any comments that would of the offense to the royal family or to the members of the board. I read much of the comments about Letizia having the separate agenda from Felipe. I believe very much in the equal rights and education of the female and do not think this is a matter of Letizia having the ability to handle the agenda designed specifically for her.

I think this is the strategic decision of the royal family because of the publicity and the attention Letizia gets whereever she makes the appearance. The people that are of the interest in following the royal family are the one group of people that follow for their position on matters. Then there is the group of people that follow Letizia for the fairytale if you will. The female that marries the prince and is most beautiful. She is now the mother of the two beautiful daughters and this gives some of the people the interest to see her.

On this board we discuss the political issues all the way to the wardrobes of both Felipe and Letizia. However, the papparazzi is of the most interest in Letizia. Why? Because Letizia sales and makes the money for them. They can critique her outfit, shoes, handbag, hair, jewelry and much more that is of the interest to the female reading population.

I would not think the Royal Family would be happy if Letizia events on her own agenda created the more attention that Felipe agenda. In fact it would see if I make this decision I would schedule Letizia to join Felipe as much as possible at the most important of events with the message Felipe has to deliver. This assists in the popularity of Felipe and in this way his wife his a great asset to him and the Royal Family.

Again I do not want to offend anyone. I think the decision we may not have agreement with but it is probably a good decision to promote Felipe and his wisdom in continuing to represent Spain as King in the future.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:37 PM
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but what is the point of this thread?
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:39 PM
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but what is the point of this thread?
In all of the Felipe and Letizia threads, it seems to come up different topics about Letizia's agenda, for example, I've read many about how she doesn't have that many current events outside Felipe. Instead of wasting space in the thread by getting off topic, I'm assuming that the mods thought it would be a good idea to let people vent their anger() or give their opinions here.
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I am not in Spain and do not want to make any comments that would of the offense to the royal family or to the members of the board. I read much of the comments about Letizia having the separate agenda from Felipe. I believe very much in the equal rights and education of the female and do not think this is a matter of Letizia having the ability to handle the agenda designed specifically for her.

I think this is the strategic decision of the royal family because of the publicity and the attention Letizia gets whereever she makes the appearance. The people that are of the interest in following the royal family are the one group of people that follow for their position on matters. Then there is the group of people that follow Letizia for the fairytale if you will. The female that marries the prince and is most beautiful. She is now the mother of the two beautiful daughters and this gives some of the people the interest to see her.

On this board we discuss the political issues all the way to the wardrobes of both Felipe and Letizia. However, the papparazzi is of the most interest in Letizia. Why? Because Letizia sales and makes the money for them. They can critique her outfit, shoes, handbag, hair, jewelry and much more that is of the interest to the female reading population.

I would not think the Royal Family would be happy if Letizia events on her own agenda created the more attention that Felipe agenda. In fact it would see if I make this decision I would schedule Letizia to join Felipe as much as possible at the most important of events with the message Felipe has to deliver. This assists in the popularity of Felipe and in this way his wife his a great asset to him and the Royal Family.

Again I do not want to offend anyone. I think the decision we may not have agreement with but it is probably a good decision to promote Felipe and his wisdom in continuing to represent Spain as King in the future.
I do not think you will offfend anyone. I agree with your insightful comments. As I said in another thread Zarzuela knows what they are doing and Letizia's schedule/agenda is deliber so as not to overshadow her husband or the issue/cause.
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Old 10-09-2007, 08:49 PM
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Forgive me for my ignorance, but what is the point of this thread?
Well, if you read Avalons first sentense it would become clear enough: finding a place where this topic can be discussed for those who are interested. The current events thread and other threads can that way be dedicated to the topics they were created for and not for this particular discussion. Added to that, the people who are getting annoyed by the agenda discussion won´t be confronted with it unless they want to. So a win-win situation
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I think this is the strategic decision of the royal family because of the publicity and the attention Letizia gets whereever she makes the appearance.
I think your statement above just about sums it up. Those who criticize the princess for not having her own agenda seem to conveniently forget that she operates within the confine of the establishment. I don't have a doubt that Letizia is an independent woman; she got married and divorce when she was young. It takes a strong independent person to admit I made a mistake and move forward. For whatever reason, the court seems to limit her role at the moment. She married him knowing who he was, and if she's required to perform her functions only with Felipe, then she's securing her husband’s future position. She promised to love him for better or worse, if the worse is not having her own agenda, I say she’s damn lucky.
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....... For whatever reason, the court seems to limit her role at the moment. She married him knowing who he was, and if she's required to perform her functions only with Felipe, then she's securing her husband’s future position. She promised to love him for better or worse, if the worse is not having her own agenda, I say she’s damn lucky.

It's a very clever point of vew! It's a while that I'm telling that, may be not so clear as you!

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I've considered this when it has come up in the other threads, and most of my thoughts have already been mentioned here at the least so I'll be brief:

I agree that it is right that Letizia has an agenda as is appropriate to the royal house of which she is a member.
I also agree that were she to have more solo engagemetns, she would overshadow Felipe, just as Mary does Frederik. (I am not saying that this is a bad thing, or a reflection upon either of the couple's popularity, its just the way it is.)

Another thing to be considered (and now please ignore my comments about M&F above - I do not believe that this holds true for them) is that, by having a vast majority of appearances together, they put forward a united front and are used to working together, certainly something which I would consider to be an attribute for a King and his Queen!

Edit: Just to clarify, I certainly believe that F&M are putting together a "united front" etc
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Another thing to be considered (and now please ignore my comments about M&F above - I do not believe that this holds true for them) is that, by having a vast majority of appearances together, they put forward a united front and are used to working together, certainly something which I would consider to be an attribute for a King and his Queen!
This I would like to add is a most intelligent comment. I think it is back to the strategy of the Royal Family that Felipe and Letizia present this united front and ability to have the good working relationship together for the role of future King and Queen.

I have the suspicion in the years ahead Letizia will have more of her own so called agenda. I say so-called because a member of a royal family does not sit down and make the decisions about what they will or will not do in my opinion. I believe the levels may be reached for them to express the opinion and preference; however, I believe there exists an establishment that makes these decisions for the strategic purpose of the entire monarch.

For now they schedule Felipe with and without his most beautiful of assets, Letizia, to successfully remove from the minds of the people of Spain that Felipe is the playboy bachelor and has matured to much the loving and devloted husband and father. This is what the people like to have in their future King.

This is only the thoughts of my mind though.
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To me the court seems to limit her role at the moment because they are afraid that she can achieve mucht more popularity than the future King! I'am not saying that she prefers to have her own agenda, we don't know that, but I think that this couple does what the court demand them to do, their lifes are really in charge of the court, so they must to what the court says!
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The princess of Asturias has a solo activity next Friday according to SRF agenda:
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Now that princess Letizia has started working again, maybe she will have more solo activities.
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In one part I agree with you, but they need to understand the title of Princess of Asturias hasn't responsabilities becasue pass a long of time to a person obtained... In this case Princess Letizia has a good work and desempain her a good paper with Felipe...

But the truth is the monarchy not sell and Letizia has the carisma needed and experience because she was reporter and I think Prince Felipe looks better than a few years ago... In 3 years Letizia has desempained an excelent work of Princess of Asturias but the constitucion and protocol designed Prince Felipe is the first and she need to maintain second...
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I think your statement above just about sums it up. Those who criticize the princess for not having her own agenda seem to conveniently forget that she operates within the confine of the establishment. I don't have a doubt that Letizia is an independent woman; she got married and divorce when she was young. It takes a strong independent person to admit I made a mistake and move forward. For whatever reason, the court seems to limit her role at the moment. She married him knowing who he was, and if she's required to perform her functions only with Felipe, then she's securing her husband’s future position. She promised to love him for better or worse, if the worse is not having her own agenda, I say she’s damn lucky.
That has to be one of the most balanced statements I've read on this forum, thanks!
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