Princess Letizia's Family Part 4

[Empress]

Here is the new thread about the family of Princess Letizia. The old thread can be found here.

Please remember that only post links to pictures unless you personally hold the copyright to the picture.

Have fun!

[princess leonor]

PALOMA ROCASOLANO SOBRE EL EMBARAZO DE SU HIJA TELMA: 'VA MUY BIEN'22 FEBRERO 2008
La madre de la Princesa de Asturias, Paloma Rocasolano, continúa siendo el único miembro de la familia en hablar sobre la buena noticia del embarazo de Telma. Cuando faltan semanas para que nazca el primer hijo de Telma, ella continúa fuera de Madrid. La casa de su abuela Menchu Álvarez en Ribadesella (Asturias) se ha convertido en su refugio desde primeros de enero y también ha visitado a la familia de su novio, Enrique, que vive en Toledo con los suyos.

Sin embargo, ni Telma, ni su novio, han querido expresar en público la lógica felicidad que deben sentir. Su madre, Paloma Rocasolano, en cambio, no ha podido eludir. Sabe que es un asunto que su hija quiere llevar en privado, con celo absoluto. Siempre con una sonrisa, Paloma se limita a hacer gala de una exquisita educación y responder aunque sin dar detalles que podrían herir susceptibilidades. Un simple: “Va muy bien” es suficiente.

La revista ¡HOLA! adelantaba esta semana que el bebé que espera la hermana de doña Letizia es una niña. Paloma, llegando a su trabajo no quiso hablar sobre este tema. Tras confirmar que su hija está bien, añadió: “Yo no digo nada”. El bebé que está a punto de nacer será el cuarto nieto para Paloma y su ex marido, Jesús Ortiz. La mayor es Carla, hija de Erika –fallecida el pasado año- y las pequeñas, las infantas Leonor y Sofía, las hijas de los Príncipes de Asturias. Siguiendo quizás el deseo de los padres, ya no dijo nada más cuando se le preguntó si ya tienen el nombre escogido: “Eso es cosa de los padres”.

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[Camarina]

According Hello, the first son of Thelma is a girl.

[gamali]

Don't you think they are giving much too importance to the sister of Princess Letizia? She is not royal, and she is already appearing on magazine covers and gets followed by papparazzi eveywhere she goes. I think she is getting accostumed to the limelight and is not upset by that!!! What do you think?

Another thing I would like to give my opinion is on her pregnacy without being married. I consider that in her case, since she is the sister of the future Queen of Spain she try to act a little bit more traditional so not to embarass her sister of the family of her sister.

[RhapsodyBrat]

Originally Posted by gamali

Don't you think they are giving much too importance to the sister of Princess Letizia? She is not royal, and she is already appearing on magazine covers and gets followed by papparazzi eveywhere she goes. I think she is getting accostumed to the limelight and is not upset by that!!! What do you think?

Another thing I would like to give my opinion is on her pregnacy without being married. I consider that in her case, since she is the sister of the future Queen of Spain she try to act a little bit more traditional so not to embarass her sister of the family of her sister.

the world has changed, and sometimes we don't all agree with the change. many people now don't consider a baby born out of wedlock as an embarassment, most especially if this child has been welcomed by both parents and that those parents are responsible and can guarantee the well-being of the child. granted, that goes against the teachings of the Catholic Church, of which she is a member, and i don't know how religious she is, but if she wanted to have a baby and that she knows she can raise it then why should she be ashamed?

and while i agree with the first question you raised, i don't think Telma loves the attention brought about by having a famous sister. if you've seen previous videos where she's being chased by the media, most of the time she has her head down or averted and she's just walking, as if walking away, not even stopping to talk. at times she's even sort of running.

besides, if she really loved the attention, then she would have cashed in on this fame and gave 'exclusive' interviews to the magazines every time she can (most especially now that she's pregnant), made sure her work gets publicity, and posed for the paparazzi while attending high-profile society events. but as we can all see she did not; she stayed quiet and did her own thing.

but these are just my thoughts, though.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by gamali

Another thing I would like to give my opinion is on her pregnacy without being married. I consider that in her case, since she is the sister of the future Queen of Spain she try to act a little bit more traditional so not to embarass her sister of the family of her sister.

I personally think that Telma is at the very end of the scala when ranking the most embarrassing siblings of royals as she does not seek the spotlight or attention at the expense of her royal sister or even the SRF. Whether she's married or not, lives with her boyfriend or not or is a member of the church or not is completely her own business and I don't think anybody bothers. There are other issues in today's society to worry about than how the CP's sister choses to live her life.

Camarina
According Hello, the first son of Thelma is a girl.

I do hope it's a girl. If it's a boy I am sure the Yellow Press will pick up on it because it will provide a subject for many silly stories. As long as the constitution officially prefers the male heir the media will speculate on the issue if Letizia should give birth to a boy or not. With Telma eventually having a son this topic will be back on the agenda and will give the Yellow Press plenty to write about, from the baby boy's impact on Letizias' state of mind or the pressure by the adamant King who finally demands a male successor .

[Anna_R]

Originally Posted by gamali

Don't you think they are giving much too importance to the sister of Princess Letizia? She is not royal, and she is already appearing on magazine covers and gets followed by papparazzi eveywhere she goes. I think she is getting accostumed to the limelight and is not upset by that!!! What do you think?

Another thing I would like to give my opinion is on her pregnacy without being married. I consider that in her case, since she is the sister of the future Queen of Spain she try to act a little bit more traditional so not to embarass her sister of the family of her sister.

I hardly think Thelma loves the spotlight. All the shots from her, including the cover shots were paparazzi ones, taken while she was out and about on the street.

Thelma has lived until now in the Philippines, working for Doctors Without Borders. Pretty much away of everything that could be considered "limelight". She's back in Spain now to have her baby and I guess she's the least person to blame for having her picture taken, or do you think she has to stay inside her house and not to go out so her picture won't be taken?

In regards to a baby born out of wedlock, we have no idea about her situation with her boyfriend, who, by the way, is in Spain with her. They could be married and no one knows about it, or they could be planning to get married after the baby is born or none of these.

I guess that, in the end, what matters for this child is to be loved by his parents and by his family. And, based on what I saw so far, I believe he or she will be very much loved.

[LadyFinn]

Telma and Enrique in Toledo
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[fanletizia]

03-03-2008 Madrid Princess Letizia´s sister, Telma Ortiz, walling around in Madrid after leaving a friend at Barajas airport. Monday, 3 Mar. 2008. Telma Ortiz will give birth at the end of March.


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[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by fanletizia

03-03-2008 Madrid Princess Letizia´s sister, Telma Ortiz, walling around in Madrid after leaving a friend at Barajas airport. Monday, 3 Mar. 2008. Telma Ortiz will give birth at the end of March.


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oh dear she looks very upset in the last pictures.

[Duke of Marmalade]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Telma and Enrique in Toledo
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Telma has been looking very sloppy lately, unkempt, more like a bag lady than the pretty lady who used to sparkle at her sisters' events.

More pics of Telma. Not sure why she felt the need to wear her purple slippers outside on the street.
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[Paty]

Ups! She seems to be very anger!
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[RhapsodyBrat]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

More pics of Telma. Not sure why she felt the need to wear her purple slippers outside on the street.
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well, she was just walking outside the house. It's not like she's going to dress up because she knows the paparazzi's watching her.

[Vanesa]

Yes. Times changes. But some of us doesn't agree with these, and the fact that these changes are worldwide accepted doesn't make a good thing of them.

Poor litle girl is not to blame: she is welcome in this world, and I'm very happy she is born, as I'm happy about every little girl or boy's birth. They are a God gift. And of course, I don't approve that some priest wouldn't want to christen one of these babies only for they are born out of wedlock. The reason? They are not guilty. They never ask to come here. They parents bring her/him to this world. And our duty is to receive them and to love them.

But I think that parents are to blame, at least in certain cases. One thing is the fooled poor girl who is abandoned by his boyfriend when she is pregnant. She believed in love and the boyfriend laughed at her, using her as a thing and then, leting her aside. This abandoned girl, single mother needs our love , our comprenssion and our care. Howver, there are cases when the father doesn't want to marry...or (nowadays most of them) the mather is refractary to marry. The excuse is that "matrimony is a bourgeois institution and blah, blah, blah"....I know these. And I don't like these people. They are free not to marry. But let me, at least the freedom of doesn't like them either. This newborn in Princess Letizia's family has two parents , they didn't broke with each other...but they wouldn't marry. The only thing I can say is: poor girl!

And I'd rather let aside the fact they are somewhat involved to Spain Royal family, for if I make a comment, I'll be banned for sure!

When I choose Monarchy as the ideal system it was only for I'm far, far away of being a postmodern and I was searching something classic and traditionalist. I'm now finding that Monarchy is exactly the same than the other systems. Monarchy was wonderful in the past. Nowadays, I see there only a bunch of rich people who does what they wants. I must accept that I'm not interested any more in any system. All is the same garbage.

Vanesa.

[PrincessElena]

Originally Posted by Vanesa

there only a bunch of rich people who does what they wants.

I would not say that. I think this is because royals are humans too. Some of them think like this, some of them think like that. This did not just happen now, this happend back in the past too. Some were kept as a secret, some were not.

While I am not fond of the idea of a child being born out of wedlock, I wish her a safe pregnancy and delivery.

But yes, she does seem quite umkept and frustrated lately...well on the pictures that is!

[planetcher]

Originally Posted by Vanesa

Yes. Times changes. But some of us doesn't agree with these, and the fact that these changes are worldwide accepted doesn't make a good thing of them.

I take it you've never heard of other royals' illegitimate children and adulterous marriages since time immemorial. Too many to mention but since we're in the Spanish board we don't have to look far, King Juan Carlos is one of them and many of his Borbon ancestors.

[donnaK]

Telma is a pretty sister, she was single, and there were rumors from the foreign press that Prince Albert of Monaco was interested at her. Thus the press pays/paid her more attention whenever she is/was in Spain. I don't think she ever seeked the media attention or tried to take advantage of her sister's status, I always have an impression she is actually not comfortable in Spain as a sister of PoA, would prefer living in a far away country, however right now Enrique seems to plan to resume his lawyer career in Spain according to the press. Love alone is not enough for a lasting happy marriage, sharing a common goal, the comfort of daily life and work also plays important parts. Good luck to them and the future baby .

[Duke of Marmalade]

Do we actually know that they are not married? Telma wears a ring that does look like a wedding band. I agree with donnaK, Telma is no attention seeker and would prefer an ordinary life without media attention. The problem is that this won't be possible in Spain as Telma already will have realized. Therefore, if they still plan their future in Spain, they will have to live with being harrassed every time they appear in public and unfortunately that will apply to their child, too.

Not sure what's going on but when a scruffy looking Telma makes an emotional appearance at Madrid airport when yelling at her poor friend the paparazzi will know that Telma staying in Spain will be a good thing for their salaries.

[biboquinhas]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

Not sure what's going on but when a scruffy looking Telma makes an emotional appearance at Madrid airport when yelling at her poor friend the paparazzi will know that Telma staying in Spain will be a good thing for their salaries.

She did that?? I think that even if she doesn't belong to the royal family she should know how to behave in public, her sister is going to be the next Queen of Spain and that should really mean something to her and to her family!!!! And beeing outside with her pink sleepers shoes doens't help at all What does Letizia think about this???

[infanteleonor]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

She did that?? I think that even if she doesn't belong to the royal family she should know how to behave in public, her sister is going to be the next Queen of Spain and that should really mean something to her and to her family!!!! And beeing outside with her pink sleepers shoes doens't help at all What does Letizia think about this???

Thelma isn't a member of the royal family
in the fact the infantes el rey have the same fotos
children for the infanta christina too
el rey too
what telma does change su live for su hermana?
she is not married with the prince
y NO IS A MEMBER OF THE ROYAL FAMILY
the press is bad