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Old 10-22-2013, 06:47 PM
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After reading all your points of view, it is very clear for me that nowadays nobody can understand the real meaning of a Monarchy. If a prince gets married to a woman like Letizia, the monarchy will disappear sooner or later. If you all want to have princesses coming "from the other side", I say: not me.

The meaning of being part of a royal family is very deep, and if a person doesnt want to accept it like Letizia, it is better dont get married to a prince.

If she wants to be an anonimous person, and she wants her daughters are "normal girls", dont get married to become a member of a Royal Family.

The cases of other princesses in Europe are very different, especially the case of Máxima, who is one of the best princesses and now queen of nowadays, because she has understood very well what is her role in all senses.
One thing many of us do understand is when someone's posting in a thread are nothing but spiteful attacks against someone they really don't know or has never met, that means one thing and one thing only. Someone's got some sort of agenda against the Crown Princess and is willing to twist any posting in the thread to suit their purposes.

Not only do I not understand someone doing this, I also find it very sad.
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Old 10-22-2013, 07:49 PM
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Look, I am no expert on Letizia, but she does not appear to be warm, friendly or ebullient. Maxima is all that. She is not messy, as one poster said. She is who she is. Lovely, warm and friendly. Don't compare people, they can never be the same. If Filipe is happy, it is no one business. The great royal marriage of his parents is a sham. Be kind to Letizia.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:05 PM
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Great post COUNTESS, I agree!
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:14 PM
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Look, I am no expert on Letizia, but she does not appear to be warm, friendly or ebullient. Maxima is all that. She is not messy, as one poster said. She is who she is. Lovely, warm and friendly. Don't compare people, they can never be the same. If Filipe is happy, it is no one business. The great royal marriage of his parents is a sham. Be kind to Letizia.
Bravo. I love Letizia and do not envy her situation right now. (politically as far as her in laws are concerned) She is a strong woman whom I admire.

I really like Maxima, but sometimes she is "too much" for me. I am more like Letizia - everyone has different personalities!!! :)
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Old 10-22-2013, 10:18 PM
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So, if you are not Spanish, you can not understand the matter.
True to some extent, but I am educated and like to think of myself as a fair person who tries not to make grand presumptions about people I do not know. I also have the right to share my opinion on Letizia here, or defend her as far as giving her the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:23 AM
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Letizia is not jolly or bubbly, but appears to me very warm and friendly, especially towards those normal or underprivileged citizens. She is probably the only female royal in the family who has lots of personal contacts with people she met through charities she supports.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:26 AM
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I don't know much about the SRF or Letizia but they seem like a good family. We can only see so much from the outside. Pictures are only pictures & they mean nothing unless you really know what's going on. All I can say is that Letizia seems like a nice, intelligent and interesting woman. She has to have some good qualities about her for Felipe to choose her as his wife over the millions of women in this world. The press can bash Letizia all they want. But Letizia, being a former member of the press, knows the game. My guess is when she's had enough, she'll know how to approach the situation.

My one complaint is that Letizia needs a bigger role in the SRF. She's a smart woman, why not give her something? All the other CP's have their charities they support. I know Letizia is very capable of having a role that's similar to Maxima, Mary, MM, Kate, Victoria, Mathilde & Rania. There's so much out there for her.
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Old 10-23-2013, 10:27 AM
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My opinions about Letizia dont come from newspapers or tabloids. In fact I hate tabloids and gossips. I have always been very interested in the role of all the European princesses of nowadays, and for lot of Spanish people Letizia is a wrong choice by Felipe. She is very "teenager", she is a married woman and a princess nowadays, but her behaviour is very inappropiated....It is not normal she goes out with her girlfriends every weekend until last hours in the night to pubs or discos, she is not 16 or 18, she is 40!! We all expect that she stays at home with her husband and daughters. If she wants to go out with the Prince, it is perfect but not going out like a teenager. It is not only a matter of marital status and age, it is also because nowadays she is Princess of Asturias and future Queen.
Mette-Marit of Norway had a "crazy" past, but nowadays she is a princess and she have had a great and perfect evolution.

Regarding the book written by her cousin David, I havent read it, for me it is rubbish !! But it is a fact that the book had an impact on the news specially at first moment. It is disgusting that her cousin behaved like a traitor. But it is also true that things her cousin David explained in his book were not new for us...Lot of people knew about her abortion and others, it is only that people didnt speak about it only for respect.

People working for Royal House dont have a good opinion about her, that is a real fact, not a gossip.

To sum up, Letizia must be very conscious of her role and position nowadays, she is not more Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano, journalist, single and anonimous citizen living in a flat and going out whenever she wants and doing whatever she wants....Now she is a princess and the future Queen.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:31 AM
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We are in the twenty-first century, and women are not slaves to their husbands. Women of 30, 40 or 50 can go out with friends, go to dinner, go to a concert or dance, and that's not a problem. God thank Franco dead and women in Spain do not need the permission of their husbands for everything.

The prince goes out sometimes with friends ... he goes to a bar or a weekend skiing ... and no criticism because he is a man and prince. Infanta Elena also goes out to parties with friends and goes to concerts ... but there is no problem (she is praised for being down to earth).

The princess lives and works with her ​​husband in Zarzuela, probably they are one of the royal couples that have more activities together. Almost all employees are men and many military ... in the palace she has no woman to share anything... is normal once a week that she wants to see her friends and do things with them. Women all of them professionals, of the same age and some who also have husbands and children.

The gossip press only speaks when Letizia goes out alone with her friends, or she goes to a concert 4 times a year... in twitter there are dozens of comments talking about when the prince and princess go to the movies or to dinner. On Sunday Letizia and girls were seen at a mall in Madrid, previous week the whole family went to dinner at a Chinese restaurant ...

In May, the prince was photographed over a weekend in Mallorca, and nosy reporters took to mean that the prince was alone and the fault was of Letizia ... reality was discovered on the internet when many people started to say that they had seen Letizia with girls and other friends in a park, that they were on a beach or the couple was at night at a bar.

In August said they were not doing things together ... when all July weekends, there were comments from people on twitter who saw them in restaurants, at the movies, as a couple or with their daughters.

In short, the press creates an artificial story, because what sells is the scandal... curiously the more the press tries to sell it, people comment more spontaneous every time they see the princess, the couple or family anywhere.

All princesses are women of their generation, that sometimes go out with their​​friends and without husbands, and travel alone overseas leaving husband and children... sometimes for official events, others for visit the family, shopping, to go a party, a fashion show or relax.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:58 AM
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True to some extent, but I am educated and like to think of myself as a fair person who tries not to make grand presumptions about people I do not know. I also have the right to share my opinion on Letizia here, or defend her as far as giving her the benefit of the doubt.
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:10 PM
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In that case, you all are wrong....The fact that I spend some time in Doha every year doens't mean that I am Arab and Muslim.
I thought that we could choose an username (that is not my real name) and an avatar (whatever we want), that is all. I hope I dont have to explain here my personal issues.

I am Spanish and I have been interested in monarchies even before I learnt to read, so imagine !!

My opinions about Letizia dont come from newspapers or tabloids. In fact I hate tabloids and gossips. I have always been very interested in the role of all the European princesses of nowadays, and for lot of Spanish people Letizia is a wrong choice by Felipe. She is very "teenager", she is a married woman and a princess nowadays, but her behaviour is very inappropiated....It is not normal she goes out with her girlfriends every weekend until last hours in the night to pubs or discos, she is not 16 or 18, she is 40!! We all expect that she stays at home with her husband and daughters. If she wants to go out with the Prince, it is perfect but not going out like a teenager. It is not only a matter of marital status and age, it is also because nowadays she is Princess of Asturias and future Queen.
Mette-Marit of Norway had a "crazy" past, but nowadays she is a princess and she have had a great and perfect evolution.

Regarding the book written by her cousin David, I havent read it, for me it is rubbish !! But it is a fact that the book had an impact on the news specially at first moment. It is disgusting that her cousin behaved like a traitor. But it is also true that things her cousin David explained in his book were not new for us...Lot of people knew about her abortion and others, it is only that people didnt speak about it only for respect.

People working for Royal House dont have a good opinion about her, that is a real fact, not a gossip.

To sum up, Letizia must be very conscious of her role and position nowadays, she is not more Letizia Ortiz Rocasolano, journalist, single and anonimous citizen living in a flat and going out whenever she wants and doing whatever she wants....Now she is a princess and the future Queen.
And how do you know that? Did you talk to them, personally? Did they tell you what they think about Letizia?
If you didn't hear that directly from them, it's a gossip, you are repeating something you did not hear from people you are talking about.

BTW, facts are always real.
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My opinions about Letizia dont come from newspapers or tabloids. In fact I hate tabloids and gossips. I have always been very interested in the role of all the European princesses of nowadays, and for lot of Spanish people Letizia is a wrong choice by Felipe. She is very "teenager", she is a married woman and a princess nowadays, but her behaviour is very inappropiated....It is not normal she goes out with her girlfriends every weekend until last hours in the night to pubs or discos, she is not 16 or 18, she is 40!! We all expect that she stays at home with her husband and daughters. If she wants to go out with the Prince, it is perfect but not going out like a teenager. It is not only a matter of marital status and age, it is also because nowadays she is Princess of Asturias and future Queen.
Mette-Marit of Norway had a "crazy" past, but nowadays she is a princess and she have had a great and perfect evolution.
Obviously you read gossips and want to believe the worst ones, otherwise how could you know she went out every weekend with her friends ? Did you see her and her friends personally ? The yellow press tends to exaggerate things all the time, she went to concerts like 4 or 5 times a year, they talked as if she went every weekend, occasionally she went to dinner or have a drink with her friends, they said she went every weekend, absolutely no proof of it. We heard the most was that she went to see a movie with Felipe over the weekend.
Perhaps you need to inform well about other royals before doing any comparison. Mette-Marit spent lots of time abroad attending international conferences, fashion shows/parties. She rarely worked in Norway, when she had to work, she was often ill/sick. Overall she didn't even do half of the acts Letizia did. She got away in Norway because the Norwegians are much more relaxed. No way MM would survive in Spain with press scrutinizing her each move.
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I've re-opened this thread after a short hiatus!

I would like to remind members of the following.


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Semana.es caught Sofia and Letizia in an unguarded moment at their joint event last week. They both look so intense. Oh to be a fly on that wall.


http://oi43.tinypic.com/200smd0.jpg
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Semana.es caught Sofia and Letizia in an unguarded moment at their joint event last week. They both look so intense.


http://oi43.tinypic.com/200smd0.jpg

God knows,but as the saying goes 'a picture can tell a thousand words',might not be anything too serious.
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:21 AM
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Semana.es caught Sofia and Letizia in an unguarded moment at their joint event last week. They both look so intense.


http://oi43.tinypic.com/200smd0.jpg
This is an example of a photo captured in a second and taken completely out of context.

Here you have a video of the moment, Queen Sofia is not even talking to Princess Letizia, is reaching out and talking to a lady that is behind.

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La princesa Letizia se lía con el protocolo - 04/12/2013 - Ver vídeo online SÁLVAME

The video also shows that Queen Sofia is too preoccupied with each posed for the photo, she should be more relaxed and natural ... no wonder Princess of Asturias always move more comfortable and natural when she is alone.

But once again the news is created to harm Princess Letizia ... when she is the most innocent of the situation.
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vanitatis are now running with this 'non' story!

Letizia escucha la reprimenda de la Reina - Noticias de Casas Reales
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vanitatis are now running with this 'non' story!

Letizia escucha la reprimenda de la Reina - Noticias de Casas Reales
It's a non story for anyone in Spain who saw the news instead of a photo. Of course, Vanitatis is about creating drama and "reporting" it. In the meantime, the image of the Princess of Asturias is publicly harmed.
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this reminds of this photo where the ladies discussed where to put their purses.
http://fotos.subefotos.com/d2b2de3cb...6fa4bed2fo.jpg

honestly, sofia is far too professional to reprimand somebody in public. she still keeps smiling when JC tells her to go away.
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Queen Sofia makes mistakes, and she said so. She has admitted that the picture of Urdangarin and hers taken in Washington after the Noos scandal broke up, was a mistake.

She is not "that" professional. She was defending her own.
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