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Suzanne, I agree completely. That is the thing that always got to me. How and Why would she do that once she started dating Felipe. Surely, she must have known better. I don't mean to be unkind, but that was just plain stupid! You must always be aware of the photographers when you are with a person who leads a public life. The photographers are everywhere.
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Hey Suzanne and Jacqueline,
How are you? I do agree strongly with both of you about Eva and her appearing topless when she was dating a Crown Prince. Where were these photos taken? Was it actually in Spain?
I hope to learn more about Felipe and Eva's relationship and most of you who post here have so much knowledge and expertise in this matter as you have been following the relationship for ages and done lots of readings,study,etc...
I am so looking forward to more comments and information form everyone and their help in educating me on the Felipe and his life.
Here is another pic of Eva. She and Felipe look so much in love.
http://www.ifamosos.com/evasannum/fotos1.php3
How are you? I do agree strongly with both of you about Eva and her appearing topless when she was dating a Crown Prince. Where were these photos taken? Was it actually in Spain?
I hope to learn more about Felipe and Eva's relationship and most of you who post here have so much knowledge and expertise in this matter as you have been following the relationship for ages and done lots of readings,study,etc...
I am so looking forward to more comments and information form everyone and their help in educating me on the Felipe and his life.
Here is another pic of Eva. She and Felipe look so much in love.
http://www.ifamosos.com/evasannum/fotos1.php3
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Would Eva have made a pretty Crown Princess of Spain? Here is a picture of her with hat and nice outfit and looking very ladylike.
http://www.ifamosos.com/evasannum/fotos1.php3
http://www.ifamosos.com/evasannum/fotos1.php3
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Suzanne and jacqueline, If Eva hadn't sunbathed topless, would she have been accepted as the Crown Princess/Quen of Spain? Sometimes it is so hard to know why a person makes the mistakes they do. I look at Sarah Ferguson's life and wonder why she got involved with Jonny Bryant and the infamous toe sucking situation when she was married to hunky Prince Andrew and was in favor with the Queen of England. She had everything and yet, gave it all up for a fling with a creep who sold his story to the press?.
Did Eva ever want to be the next Queen of Spain? or were they just friends? Like with Frederik's situation where maria and bettina were more out for a good time and just enjoying being boyfriend/girlfriend, thats why they didn't care and sunbathed topless.
Thanks in advance. I hope that you all have a lovely day with hugs, friendship and love.
Did Eva ever want to be the next Queen of Spain? or were they just friends? Like with Frederik's situation where maria and bettina were more out for a good time and just enjoying being boyfriend/girlfriend, thats why they didn't care and sunbathed topless.
Thanks in advance. I hope that you all have a lovely day with hugs, friendship and love.
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Hei Lorissa!
Thanks for the Avatar compliment
I´m such a crazy LOTR- fan, that I had to use it!
Well, what I think about Eva is, that she would never have been accepted as future Queen of Spain.
She was not only spotted topless on the beach.
The problem was also, that she is a model.
There were modeling pics of her in underwear.
A problem that also Gigi Howard had, Flip´s ex ex.
She was a beautyful, intelligent ( studying Psychology ) young lady, but she disappeard as fast as she came after everybody saw the pics...
A second fact is, that she´s not Catholic.
I personaly don´t understand, why this could be a problem, but most of the Spanish people are very religious, and for them, it was!
Ok, that she´s from Norway and not a Spanish Lady I don´t have to mention.
Of course, Eva isn´t royal.
Many Spanish people would like to see a royal woman at Flips side.
Not a civil girl!
And most of all, not a woman with parents that are divorced!
Another thing, I can´t understand.
It wasn´t Eva´s fault.
One more problem is also, that the Spanish royal family never accepted her.
I think, if they would have, the people would have accepted her, too.
This is also something, I have to call especially Flips problem.
He never said: Look, that´s the woman I love.
He always did, what his dragon.....oh! ehem, I wanted to say his mother...said.
Like a little boy.
Not like a strong grown man.
So I´m not sure, if they had a real relationship or if it just was a bing bing-thing.
Maybe he would be more loyal if he finds the love of his life...
Although I , unfortunately, not think so.
Kika
Thanks for the Avatar compliment
I´m such a crazy LOTR- fan, that I had to use it!
Well, what I think about Eva is, that she would never have been accepted as future Queen of Spain.
She was not only spotted topless on the beach.
The problem was also, that she is a model.
There were modeling pics of her in underwear.
A problem that also Gigi Howard had, Flip´s ex ex.
She was a beautyful, intelligent ( studying Psychology ) young lady, but she disappeard as fast as she came after everybody saw the pics...
A second fact is, that she´s not Catholic.
I personaly don´t understand, why this could be a problem, but most of the Spanish people are very religious, and for them, it was!
Ok, that she´s from Norway and not a Spanish Lady I don´t have to mention.
Of course, Eva isn´t royal.
Many Spanish people would like to see a royal woman at Flips side.
Not a civil girl!
And most of all, not a woman with parents that are divorced!
Another thing, I can´t understand.
It wasn´t Eva´s fault.
One more problem is also, that the Spanish royal family never accepted her.
I think, if they would have, the people would have accepted her, too.
This is also something, I have to call especially Flips problem.
He never said: Look, that´s the woman I love.
He always did, what his dragon.....oh! ehem, I wanted to say his mother...said.
Like a little boy.
Not like a strong grown man.
So I´m not sure, if they had a real relationship or if it just was a bing bing-thing.
Maybe he would be more loyal if he finds the love of his life...
Although I , unfortunately, not think so.
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Hey Kika,
How are you? Thank you so much for taking the time to explain to me the reasons why Eva would not be accepted. The reasons about not being Catholic is crazy. I am beginning to think that the Spanish Royal family is ridiculous. I don't see anything wrong with modelling underwear as the girl has to make a living. Katja also modelled underwear, at least it isn't porn :x . Oh, well..... I guess that must be life.But I do agree with you that Felipe seems like a weak man for not standing up for love. At least Fred was willing to abduct the throne for Katja.
Kika, I hope you have a nice day, have fun and take care.
Hugs from Lorissa. :grrr:
How are you? Thank you so much for taking the time to explain to me the reasons why Eva would not be accepted. The reasons about not being Catholic is crazy. I am beginning to think that the Spanish Royal family is ridiculous. I don't see anything wrong with modelling underwear as the girl has to make a living. Katja also modelled underwear, at least it isn't porn :x . Oh, well..... I guess that must be life.But I do agree with you that Felipe seems like a weak man for not standing up for love. At least Fred was willing to abduct the throne for Katja.
Kika, I hope you have a nice day, have fun and take care.
Hugs from Lorissa.
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I think that the major factors against Eva were the facts that she was a model and that she modeled swimwear and underwear. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that for the average model or woman who is dating an average man. She is an attractive woman, has a good height, and body and she became a model. That happens. However, when you are dealing with royalty you are in a completely different realm, and unfortuantely the modeling of swimwear and lingerie just is not going to be accepted. If she were simply modeling evening gowns and regular clothing then perhaps it would have been less of an issue, but that was simply not the case. Honestly, in Spain, I don't know that modeling of any sort would have been that accepted.
Eva's major mistake was appearing topless while she was dating Flip. That was utterly ridiculous, IMO. It was unwarranted and something that definitely could have been avoided by Eva keeping her top on. I don't know what made her do that. Maybe she didn't want to mary Flip at this point or maybe she knew or thought that it was hopeless and that her time was her up, so it didn't matter. I don't know. But, if she thought that it was okay in an sense, she was wrong.
I do think that another major obstacle was that the Royal Family, itself did not accept Eva, and that always has a lot to do with the people of Spain not accepting her. If Flips' own family doesn't find her to be suitable or dislike things about her, then why should any citizen of Spain find her acceptable either?
I don't think that her parents' being divorced is a major issue or the fact that she isn't Catholic. Maybe it was to some people, but I personally find that to be beyond ridiculous. Her parent's issues between themselves have nothing to do with her. She can't control her parents or her family. That's impossible and she can't be faulted for that. However, many people in the world are closed-minded enough to fault people for things that take place in their families that they have nothing to do with. As far as Catholicism one can always convert.
But, the fact is that Eva and her occupation did her in. She just didn't stand a chance. That is unfortunate, but that is the way it works when you are dealing with royalty and also certain members of the nobility.
Flip is going to have a hard time chosing a wife. His future wife is going to have to be an extremely fantatstic fantasy woman, who he may or may not even love deeply. She will need a very suitable occupation, have to be educated, preferably Catholic from the very beginning, have parents that are not divorced and a perfect family that is fairly close to flawless. She will have to at least be attractive and be very pleasant, (she can't be flashy at all-very modest dress and jewelry) and have a very good way with people. She will have to be completely and utterly accepted by the Royal Family of Spain.
Eva's major mistake was appearing topless while she was dating Flip. That was utterly ridiculous, IMO. It was unwarranted and something that definitely could have been avoided by Eva keeping her top on. I don't know what made her do that. Maybe she didn't want to mary Flip at this point or maybe she knew or thought that it was hopeless and that her time was her up, so it didn't matter. I don't know. But, if she thought that it was okay in an sense, she was wrong.
I do think that another major obstacle was that the Royal Family, itself did not accept Eva, and that always has a lot to do with the people of Spain not accepting her. If Flips' own family doesn't find her to be suitable or dislike things about her, then why should any citizen of Spain find her acceptable either?
I don't think that her parents' being divorced is a major issue or the fact that she isn't Catholic. Maybe it was to some people, but I personally find that to be beyond ridiculous. Her parent's issues between themselves have nothing to do with her. She can't control her parents or her family. That's impossible and she can't be faulted for that. However, many people in the world are closed-minded enough to fault people for things that take place in their families that they have nothing to do with. As far as Catholicism one can always convert.
But, the fact is that Eva and her occupation did her in. She just didn't stand a chance. That is unfortunate, but that is the way it works when you are dealing with royalty and also certain members of the nobility.
Flip is going to have a hard time chosing a wife. His future wife is going to have to be an extremely fantatstic fantasy woman, who he may or may not even love deeply.
She will need a very suitable occupation, have to be educated, preferably Catholic from the very beginning, have parents that are not divorced and a perfect family that is fairly close to flawless. She will have to at least be attractive and be very pleasant, (she can't be flashy at all-very modest dress and jewelry) and have a very good way with people. She will have to be completely and utterly accepted by the Royal Family of Spain.
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Hey Jacqueline thank you so much for explaining all this to me. You and Kika are a kicka$$ team. Kika, how is Robb? I hope that she is feeling better as colds are so horrible.
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Hi Lorissa. You're welcome. Poor Flip. I would really hate to be him. Choosing a wife to meet everyone's standards is going to be nearly impossible. I certainly wouldn't want that task. No wonder he's still single.
No wonder he's still single.OK Kika......bing bing thing ??? 
That's the first time I heard that reference. Horizonal bop...Matress mambo...etc.
Well in the Spanish Corona I remember reading that he would have to marry a Royal and Catholic (although it was in spanish and I read it through a translator). But I remember the press constantly refering to those two facts. They said he might be able to get by the Royal thing but not the Catholic.
The topless and underwear modeling just proves she didn't have good judgement and not appropriate to be a Queen. Remember the pictures of Diana with the sun shining through her skirt showing she didn't have a slip on??? She wasn't bearly dressed and that created a scandal before she got engaged to Charles.
That's the first time I heard that reference. Horizonal bop...Matress mambo...etc. Well in the Spanish Corona I remember reading that he would have to marry a Royal and Catholic (although it was in spanish and I read it through a translator). But I remember the press constantly refering to those two facts. They said he might be able to get by the Royal thing but not the Catholic.
The topless and underwear modeling just proves she didn't have good judgement and not appropriate to be a Queen. Remember the pictures of Diana with the sun shining through her skirt showing she didn't have a slip on??? She wasn't bearly dressed and that created a scandal before she got engaged to Charles.
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Hey Suzanne and Jacqueline,
How are you two? Thanks for the info. I feel so sorry for Felipe. Thats is asking too much of him to find a girl who is Royal and Catholic. Plus he has to love her as well as she has to love him. I think it is asking to much to get him to find a bride who fits those requirements. There are not many Catholic Princesses around of marriageable age. Looks like poor Felipe will have to live a lonely life and remain single for a long time to come. :x
How are you two? Thanks for the info. I feel so sorry for Felipe. Thats is asking too much of him to find a girl who is Royal and Catholic. Plus he has to love her as well as she has to love him. I think it is asking to much to get him to find a bride who fits those requirements. There are not many Catholic Princesses around of marriageable age. Looks like poor Felipe will have to live a lonely life and remain single for a long time to come.
:x Hey Lorissa,
I'm sure he's not lonely. Even when he was dating Eva he was seen having dinner and going out with a waitress Alice. So he might have a hard time finding a wife, but I doubt very much he's having a hard time finding women!! And I know a few women on this board who wouldn't mind keeping him company.
I'm sure he's not lonely. Even when he was dating Eva he was seen having dinner and going out with a waitress Alice. So he might have a hard time finding a wife, but I doubt very much he's having a hard time finding women!!
And I know a few women on this board who wouldn't mind keeping him company.
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Hello Suzanne,
How are you? Felipe sounds like a real playboy. At least Fred has settled with Mary and not looking elsewhere. So he dates more than one girl at a time? I guess he is not so lonely now. :x
Have a nice day, lots of fun and take care.
Lorissa
How are you? Felipe sounds like a real playboy. At least Fred has settled with Mary and not looking elsewhere. So he dates more than one girl at a time? I guess he is not so lonely now.
:x Have a nice day, lots of fun and take care.
Lorissa
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Hei Ladies!
How are you all?
I was calling Robby tonight.
That poor thing has got a bronchitis .
But she´s getting antibitics now and is feeling a bit better.
So she hopes to be back on Monday.
All my best wishes Honey! :*
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I don´t think Flip is dating more then one girl at the same time.
But my opinion is, that he likes to be chated up by as many women as possible.
Just to make his ego feel good.
You know what I mean? :important:
Suzanne, bing bing is what we call that... act... :woot:
So you know something more in German :mrgreen:
Kika
How are you all?
I was calling Robby tonight.
That poor thing has got a bronchitis
.But she´s getting antibitics now and is feeling a bit better.
So she hopes to be back on Monday.
All my best wishes Honey! :*
:* I don´t think Flip is dating more then one girl at the same time.
But my opinion is, that he likes to be chated up by as many women as possible.
Just to make his ego feel good.
You know what I mean? :important:
Suzanne, bing bing is what we call that... act... :woot:
So you know something more in German :mrgreen:
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Hello Everyone,
How are you all? I have often wondered how many girlfriends has Felipe had and was he faithful a majority of the time to one girl? Is he a playboy like Prince Albert? Did he have a true love?
Thanks in advance.
Hugs,
Lorissa
How are you all? I have often wondered how many girlfriends has Felipe had and was he faithful a majority of the time to one girl? Is he a playboy like Prince Albert? Did he have a true love?
Thanks in advance.
Hugs,
Lorissa
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P.S Eva has sunbathed topless, but has Felipe ever dropped his pants before and exposed his Royal Crown jewels for the world to see, the way Fred and Prince Andrew have? :x
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Hei Lorissa!
I think, he had 3 relationships.
The first one was Isabel Sartorius.
Flip was about 21 when he met her.
She was a bit older then him.
A Spanish aristrocratic girl.
They have been together for 4 ( ) years or something like that.
I think, she was his first big love, but Flips dragon-mum didn´t liked her, and you can imagine what has happened then... :x
:mrgreen: 
The next lady I know was Gigi Howard.
An American girl.
He met her while studying in the US.
But after there suddenly appeared some underwear- modeling pics of her.... some said it was Sofia herself who published them.... Gigi was history.
The third one was the famous Eva.
They were together for 4 years.
I´m sure Flip already had some other short "romances" here and there.
But I think he´s that kind of man, that prefers a long relationship.
And that´s what I like.
I hope that helps you a bit! :*
Kika
PS. If there would have been pics like that, I would have seen them!
I think, he had 3 relationships.
The first one was Isabel Sartorius.
Flip was about 21 when he met her.
She was a bit older then him.
A Spanish aristrocratic girl.
They have been together for 4 (
) years or something like that.I think, she was his first big love, but Flips dragon-mum didn´t liked her, and you can imagine what has happened then... :x
:mrgreen: The next lady I know was Gigi Howard.
An American girl.
He met her while studying in the US.
But after there suddenly appeared some underwear- modeling pics of her.... some said it was Sofia herself who published them.... Gigi was history.
The third one was the famous Eva.
They were together for 4 years.
I´m sure Flip already had some other short "romances" here and there.
But I think he´s that kind of man, that prefers a long relationship.
And that´s what I like.
I hope that helps you a bit! :*
Kika
PS. If there would have been pics like that, I would have seen them!
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Hey Kika,
How are you? Thanks so much for all the excellent information. You are so sweet and knowledgeable in Felipe info. I wonder what Gigi Howard looked like and what she did for work. Was she also a model? You are so funny about the nude photos. I hope that you have a fantastic weekend. Love you heaps and appreciate you very much. Have fun and take care.
How are you? Thanks so much for all the excellent information. You are so sweet and knowledgeable in Felipe info. I wonder what Gigi Howard looked like and what she did for work. Was she also a model? You are so funny about the nude photos. I hope that you have a fantastic weekend. Love you heaps and appreciate you very much. Have fun and take care.
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Hei Lorissa!
If you want to know more about Flip and all his candidates, you can go to Toni´s and Rachell´s great felipe page.
The addy is:
http://www.angelfire.com/dc/felipe/
There you can find pics of Gigi and everything about her.
But as far as I know, she was studying Psychology at that time.
Kika
If you want to know more about Flip and all his candidates, you can go to Toni´s and Rachell´s great felipe page.
The addy is:
http://www.angelfire.com/dc/felipe/
There you can find pics of Gigi and everything about her.
But as far as I know, she was studying Psychology at that time.
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Thanks for the link Kika. I am off to check it out.
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I found this on the webb
Link to source
Take a look at this
Some fun reading
It's in Spanish so you need a translation webbsite
Link here
Link to source
Take a look at this
Some fun reading
It's in Spanish so you need a translation webbsite
Link here
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Sorry Lorissa but Kika forgot that they are having problems with the service that have the photo's stored on and they haven't been able to be accessed for the last month. They are working on it, but haven't been able to fix the problem or move the photo's yet.
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Thanks so much Suzanne. I tried twice to get on and thought that it was my computer that was the problem. At least now I know. Thanks Josefine for the pictures. I hope you two have a great weekend.
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No, it was definitely just a BING BING!!!
you're right, if eva hadn't sunbathed topless she probably would have been the next queen of spain.
i don't really like her because she informed the media about her and felipe's outting together (which could have gotten felipe killed by ETA) . which imo means she was only out to further her name as a model and she was going to stay as long as she could and ride it out as far as she could. these actions prove that she isn't right for Spain or the royal family. yes she's pretty. she's probably smart. yes, maybe but she did sunbath topless AFTER meeting felipe. thats not stupid but it was naive of her. imo this speaks volumes about her character! it isn't/wasn't a character that spain wanted.
i don't really like her because she informed the media about her and felipe's outting together (which could have gotten felipe killed by ETA) . which imo means she was only out to further her name as a model and she was going to stay as long as she could and ride it out as far as she could. these actions prove that she isn't right for Spain or the royal family. yes she's pretty. she's probably smart. yes, maybe but she did sunbath topless AFTER meeting felipe. thats not stupid but it was naive of her. imo this speaks volumes about her character! it isn't/wasn't a character that spain wanted.
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