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Old 04-15-2003, 12:02 PM
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Yes, it is important that he love her. I think if most of these royals were in love to begin with they wouldn't have had affairs; but I think they could learn to love each other if they had an arranged marriage. If they have enough committment to each other and determine not to go elsewhere they can and will survive. Love is a choice. Feelings may not be a choice, but love is.
you only have to look at felipe's parents juan carlos and sofia to see that your theory is not true. juan carlos and sofia are comitted to one another professionally and not personally as juan carlos has had many affairs and many mistresses. it was reported in 1995 that sofia and the three children were going to leave juan carlos because of his infidelity but they were intercepted by royal guards. juan carlos and sofia are respected by one another and they probably care for one another but they are friends and nothing more. i think that it is incredibly important if you are going to get married to love one another and if you do not then do not get married.
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Old 04-15-2003, 01:34 PM
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[QUOTE]juan carlos and sofia are respected by one another and they probably care for one another but they are friends and nothing more.

Can you say with absolute certainty that Juan Carlos and Sophia don't love each other? Do they not love each other because he had affairs? Do they not love each other because Sophia wanted to leave him because of his affairs? Can love be that neatly and clearly defined?

Do you think it is possible that they only two people who really know if they love each other is Juan Carlos and Sophia? It is always a mistake to 2nd guess the love of married couples; appearances can be deceiving.
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Old 04-16-2003, 05:39 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by thissal@Apr 15th, 2003 - 12:34 pm
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juan carlos and sofia are respected by one another and they probably care for one another but they are friends and nothing more.

Can you say with absolute certainty that Juan Carlos and Sophia don't love each other? Do they not love each other because he had affairs? Do they not love each other because Sophia wanted to leave him because of his affairs? Can love be that neatly and clearly defined?

Do you think it is possible that they only two people who really know if they love each other is Juan Carlos and Sophia? It is always a mistake to 2nd guess the love of married couples; appearances can be deceiving.
i did not say they did not love one another. i said they are not in love two different things. and you need both for a proper marriage in my opinion.
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Old 04-20-2003, 06:34 PM
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I find surprising that no one has mentioned the campaign made by some members of the Spanish aristocracy against Eva. There were articles in newspapers and magazines expressing the reasons why Eva wasn't fit to be Queen.
If you can read the language, the man on the bottom of the page was very happy when Felipe announced the end of the relationship (that's part of what he said to this site) and so were others: Que Me Dices

Of course the lingerie pictures didn't help either, and the dress she wore to the royal wedding in Norway didn't please some ppl that said it showed too much

One last thing I remember a tv program were, when the break up was announced, the presenter said that the important thing was that the next queen would be spanish and everyone cheered...
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:39 AM
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Wow! I didn't know JC cheated on Sofia! I'm glad they got over that crisis. Who'd he cheat with?

so, what do you guys think about this Diana issue? Didn't Felipe deny his relationship with Eva too in the beginning? Any chance he might be doing the same with this issue? I can't imagine him falling for someone so young though unless she was incredibly mature for her age.
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by curious@Apr 20th, 2003 - 11:39 pm
Wow! I didn't know JC cheated on Sofia! I'm glad they got over that crisis. Who'd he cheat with?*

so, what do you guys think about this Diana issue? Didn't Felipe deny his relationship with Eva too in the beginning? Any chance he might be doing the same with this issue? I can't imagine him falling for someone so young though unless she was incredibly mature for her age.
well for a start JC was rumoured to have had an affair with Diana, Princess Of Wales. Do not ask me whom started it because I do not know. Diana waa never the saint that everyone painted her out to be.

As for Felipe and Diana. With regards to Eva technically it was denied by Felipe because he did not say anything to anyone. However I doubt that Felipe would so publicly deny having a relationship with someone if he was secretly dating someone. IMHO it was a media fabrication either by the press or by Diana herself. He did a personal interview in the pro monarchist Spanish newspaper ABC in which he personally denied it himself. He said there was nothing but mutual friendship between them.

Hopes that answers your questions Curious.
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:34 PM
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No, being not being a Roman Catholic doesn't matter but it certainly helps. If I remember correctly Queen Sofia (Jacqueline, Sylvia???) preferred that Felipe find a woman of noble or royal blood not that it was necessary but that she preferred this. If I am wrong I stand corrected.
Hi Julia and everyone!

Julia, I remeber as well that Queen Sofia was rumored to have stated that she would prefer that Felipe marry someone who was already a royal or a member of the nobility. I don't think that Her Majesty was being a snob in this case, but I think that she is thinking of her son and the expectations of the people of Spain. When it comes to their monarchy, it appears to me (IMO) that the people of Spain are fairly conservative and they expect their royals and their spouses and associates to behave in the most decent of ways and I am sure that they would expect the same of the future Queen Spain. I think that in this case Queen Sofia was/is thinking of the acceptance and the expectations of her son's future bride. I think that if the young woman is from a royal or noble family then in the eyes of many she may be seen as more suitable and she may also be able to handle the trials and demands of public of life. However, I do believe that regardless of this young woman's pedigree, Felipe should love her. I think that they should be more than simply close friends who will eventually share children.
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Old 04-23-2003, 10:37 PM
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Well, I don't see anything wrong with being close friends with your spouse. We all love our close friends and would be willing to make great sacrifices in the name of firendship. I think that the the feeling of being "in love" is fleeting, at best. In the end, all good marriages depend on the commitment both spouses have to making it work and their ability to "evolve" with the relationship. When you're old and gray and the first flush of love fades, it's the respect and frienship you have for each other that will see you through the rough patches. Am I making sense?

Of course, there should be some sexual tension or where would those shared childred come from? =)

So, I guess I hope Prince Felipe finds someone, royal or otherwise, who will not only be able to live up to the standard Queen Sofia has set, but someone who will be his best and most devoted friend.
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Old 04-23-2003, 10:55 PM
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Well, I certainly think that spouses shoud be friends, but you certainly shouldn't commit to marrying someone if there is no spark. I don't think that everyone can expect or should expect that wonderful thunderbolt to strike them, but there should be genuine love. You should love and be in love with the person that you marry.

Also, children are not always conceived out of love or sexual tension as you put it, Curious. Personally, if I am ever to have children, I don't want them to be conceived out of sexual tension (granted I am a mere commoner whose only obligation is to strive to be a decent and good human being within the world and not have the responsibility of an entire country on my shoulders). I want them to be conceived out of love and passion not of duty or obligation, because it is what I have to do. I have no intention of marrying someone and starting a family simply because that is what married people should do. I think that far too many people get married because they want to start a family and that is just not right IMO. Of course, it is different for royals and persons of the nobility, but for a common girl like myself, I feel that you should marry someone who you love and want to spent the rest of your life with, not because you want to have children with someone. The person that you choose to spend the rest of your life with should be enough for you with or without children (moreso for us commonors ).
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According to Spanish press and television Felipe has reportedly got a new girlfriend whom is German. If it is true I do not think it serious, more along the lines of a casual fling. Only time will tell. Remember Diana Martinez-Bordiu y Aznar?



EL PRÍNCIPE SALE DE UNA FIESTA CON UNA NUEVA AMIGA

Si hace unas semanas no se hablaba de otra cosa que de la posible relación del Príncipe Felipe con Diana Martínez-Bordiú, ahora el heredero vuelve a estar en el punto de mira de la prensa.

La prensa, de nuevo en vilo

Y es que, al parecer, Don Felipe acudió el sábado a una fiesta a divertirse y... no la abandonó solo. Dicen las malas lenguas que salió de allí acompañado de una joven, aunque nada se sabe muy bien de esta nueva amiga de Su Majestad.

La razón de que ni siquiera haya una foto es que, atención: ambos salieron en el mismo coche y... ¡tapados con una manta! Sí, como lo oyen, al estilo Julián Muñoz. En fin, todos los detalles en los videos.
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Old 06-17-2003, 07:17 PM
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Does anyone know if Felipe has ever dated Princess Haya of Jordan? Do you think that Haya has ever liked Felipe?
Some say they've dated, others that they're only friends. She's very attractive and intelligent (she attended Oxford). They would make a cute couple. I think.
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Eva will be in madrid next thursday. i wonder if she will meet up with you know whom?????????
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She sign a contrat to be a judge in the II edition of the Gillete swimwear designers.
The rest of the jury are know figures of fashion in spain.

She put some conditions to came:
-dont speak with the press
-fotos only will be allowed during the show
-she will give some of the awards
-the drawings were sent to Norway to be study by her.
(She really things that she's a star now )

the event will take place in a know madrid disco.
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This is the german girl that has been conected with Felipe.
The foto is from spanish gossip magazine Lecturas. In the mag it's also a interview with her.
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Eva Sannum in Madrid.
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Acording with spanish mewspaper El Mundo she was very discret and didn't spoke with the press, she was introduce to the public as a fashion expert and publicist.
She only stay half-hour in the show and the organizers said that she was very kind with them.

I leave you the link (in spanish).

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2003/06/19/s...1056055756.html
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In ABC and La Razon, two important newspaper in spain also is a report of Eva's visit.
Like in El Mundo they said that she arrived with 4 bodyguards that pushed back with some violence the "paparazzi". She left the airport in a van with dark glasses going to the Hotel La Moraleja (like some had said, she didn't stay in the house of Felipe friends).
She demands that the local of the event had enough security for the press don't boder her with questions and for them don´t take too many fotos of her. She arrived to the event Half-hour later.
The impression that she passed to the assistents of the event was cold and distante.
It seems that she gain 12000 euros for being part of the jury :o .

This are the links:
http://www.abc.es/gente/noticia.asp?id=189171&dia=hoy
http://www.larazon.es/noticias/noti_gen01.htm
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I just found this foto. She realy don't know how to beave herself in public.
The people who said that she wasn't educated enough to be a princesse were rigth. with this she just give them reason.

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Another foto of the event.

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