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Old 12-17-2002, 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Annie@Dec 17 2002, 12:52 PM
She's a decent looking girl but I don't think she's his type. He always seems to go for the blondes. Gigi Howard was the darkest haired woman he dated and her hair was sort of a light brown! IMO, she was also the prettiest.
i agree she was the nicest imo and prettiest!! she got a bum rep from the media and the court case ended it and felipe just throw her to the wolfs.
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Old 12-18-2002, 07:26 AM
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In this newspaper is being said that Prince Felipe has other gilfriend...

http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id=132846

I do not know how to put photos in the forum...
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Old 12-18-2002, 11:45 AM
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I understand why posting "insider" information without giving any clues in annoying, but I don't understand why other people cannot just ignore it. You aren't required to give a response to everything. I know it is polite to respond. If you feel that you must respond you could just say "thank you for the information, etc., and go on to another topic". If she realizes that no one will respond to those kind of messages maybe she will stop posting those kind. I certainly don't mind if she keeps on posting, as long as she isn't bothering anyone and she sticks to royal topics.:)
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Old 12-28-2002, 03:29 PM
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Merry Christmas!

I am still wondering why he is single. It is high time for him to find new bride.

Does anyone know how has he spent his Christmas? And what is he going to do at New Years? It is so strange that no newspapers are writing anything about him. Anyone has some news. Share with us.
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Old 12-29-2002, 01:44 AM
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Hi Aga! :)

I have no idea while Felipe is still single other than it will most likely to be very hard to find someone to live up to the expectations that everyone has of the next Queen of Spain and then for Felipe to actually be madly in love with this woman. I think that is a very difficult expectation. The woman has to be almost close to perfect and of course I am sure that Felipe wants to be in love with her, so that may be why he is still single-still searching for "Ms. Very Close to Perfect" that he can also have fun with and love. I guess that it sounds easy for those of who talk or write about, but we are only observers. It must difficult to have to live with such expectations from day to day and under the constant scrutiny of the media and people in general.
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This is an old article I found from the BBC, but it's sure evil all the things they have to say about Eva!



Spanish prince sparks royal row

Compared to tabloid extremes of the UK, the Spanish media are traditionally lenient in their judgement of royals.

But mounting speculation that Spain's heir to the throne is planning to marry his Norwegian girlfriend seems to have unleashed an almost unprecedented wave of criticism.

Eva Sannum recently came to Madrid to celebrate her twenty-sixth birthday with Crown Prince Felipe, with whom the Spanish press say she has been having a steady relationship.

She has stunning good looks. But her breeding, according to many of the cattier royal commentators, leaves much to be desired.

'Second rate'

Hola! magazine says the Prince's girlfriend "does not have the most suitable name, does not belong to an ideal family, has not received the correct education to be a princess, has to share a flat to make ends meet and work to pay for her upkeep and studies."

Ms Sannum is studying journalism and marketing in Oslo and works part-time as a model. She's best known in Spain for her lingerie shots.

The Royal editor of the conservative newspaper, ABC, in Madrid Ramon Perez Maura does not hold back.



Eva Sannum has found little sympathy in the Spanish press

"She is just a second-rate model. She is a department store model. She has never been on the catwalks of Paris or London. She has done nothing with her life."

As for Eva Sannum's background, he is in no doubt it disqualifies her from royal status.

"Her parents are divorced. Her father lives with his second wife in Oslo. Her mother married a waiter she met on the island of Rhodes in Greece."

Mr Perez Maura says people from all walks of life are asking questions about Don Felipe¿s choice of girlfriend, not just right-wing journalists.

And he adds that, "the Prince has duties. He has to choose a suitable wife and not simply one that will make him happy."

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According to a palace source quoted in the Spanish press, the issue is causing friction between the 33-year-old prince and his parents.



Speculation over the prince's marriage has reportedly caused a rift with his parents

Apparently, he maintains that he is far from reaching a decision on whether to marry Ms Sannum and resents the fact that his judgement is not trusted.

If Don Felipe did decide to marry her, he would not be breaking any constitutional rules.

It was only until 1978 that members of the Spanish royal family were required to marry another royal.

For now, the speculation and criticism is likely to continue.

One particularly vehement opponent, a biographer of King Juan Carlos, Jose Luis de Vilallonga, writes that he would consdier a marriage that puts us on the same level as the British to be a grave error.

Eva Sannum does at least meet one basic Bourbon criterion : she is six feet tall, a mere six inches shorter than her boyfriend.
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Old 01-10-2003, 05:34 PM
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Thanks for the article, Dulce Elena! Boy are the Brits catty! Though I must say I think Felipe can find a more suitable lady to be his wife.

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Hi Dulce Elena and Julia! :)

Okay, I know that my monicker reads, "The Elitist Snob," but I will unfortunately not live up to that today. I differ with the author of the article on a few points.

I do agree that Eva was an unsuitable choice for CP and Queen of Spain, but not because of her living conditions or her parents' marital problems and choices.

IMO, she was unsuitable because of the modeling-the lingerie modeling in particular. No one should know what a Princess or future Queen looks like in her underwear or lingerie IMO. It's just strange and undignified to me in royal terms. I also really didn't like it when she told the press where Felipe was at one point. That was none of their business and a breach of security. She displayed that she had no ability to keep her mouth shut or really reason when it was most important. The thing that finally made me ignore her existence completely: When Ms. Sannum had the idiocy and audacity to be photographed topless while with Felipe and even after they had been a couple for a while (once again-either not caring enough to behave in a manner befitting that of the girlfriend of the C.Prince of Spain or just not reasoning ). That was just ridiculous. She of all people should know that photographers are everywhere and that one should always be aware of them. That was the end of it for me.

But, I don't fault her for sharing a flat with someone in order to live at a standard which she can afford. I would have a new found respect for Mary Donaldson if she lived in an apartment that she could afford on her own salary or if she at least took a roommate to help with household expenses. It would be completely sensible. It's Fred's choice, but I don't think that Denmark's tax payers should help pay her living expenses, especially when considering that residents of Denmark pay fairlyhigh taxes. Having a roommate is one of the more sensible things that Eva has/had done, IMO. I can't fault her for her parents' divorce either. I know that Spain is very conservative and sets very high moral and ethical standards for the members of its Royal Family, but her parents' inability to live with each other was not her fault. She can also not be faulted for who her mother or father have chosen as their new spouses. She can't tell them who to marry.

On the matter of education, Eva could always have gone back to school. I think that she was majoring in advertising since the break-up or something to that effect....?

But, as I said the lingerie modeling and the topless photo did her in for me.
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Old 01-12-2003, 02:50 PM
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I agree with you Jacqueline. Just because you work to earn a living doesn't mean that all of a sudden you're white trash! I would actually be more than happy to see Mary Donaldson work to support herself like everyone else. Freeloading is a nice concept, but I would shudder to end up being beholden to someone else because they took care of me. I don't like being in anyone's debt for any reason. When they're married then fine, she is the Princess and can live at the Palace or in Timbuktoo, wherever on the tax payer's expense.

I found this article intriguing, because short of her parent's bad choices, for which, Eva cannot be held responsible, there was really nothing to nail her on. She's not a junkie, not a hooker, doesn't have fifteen kids by different men. She does have, however, an indecent streak. The topless acts she's pulled, the lingere modeling... You would think she would have known better since her and Mette-Marit did plan their rendez-vous with royalty. Do you think Eva would have gotten as far as she did without an "in"?

She went ahead with these charades, and then went about blabbing where Felipe was at a certain time. Stupid, stupid, stupid. That was the last nail in her cross!
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Hello Dulce Elena. :)

I think the article is intriguing as well. The fact is that if Eva were simply able to "keep it covered" so to speak she may not have annoyed or even disgusted so many people. The other things that the author mentioned were really quite frivilous details as you stated. The topless sunbathing and the lingerie modeling are the things that really ruined her.
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Hi everyone! I just thought that I would share with you that Felipe and Eva are currently on the cover of Point de Vue.



Point de Vue writes,

EVA ET FELIPE: ILS NE SE SONT JAMAIS QUITTES!

Eva était la femme de sa vie. Pour elle, felipe avait défié ses parents et l'Espagne concervatrice. Mais la raison d'Etat l'avait contraint à annoncer leur rupture. En réalité, c'était un stratagème pour protéger sa romance avec celle qui ne l'a jamais quitté, Eva Sannum.


Point de Vue has written that Felipe and Eva are still together and have been the entire time.

Well, I admit that the entire idea of them still being together is a bit ridiculous and far-fetched to say the least, but even with the shady reporting, I must admit that the cover photo is very attractive. It looks like someone took two separate photographs and then put them together.....but still nice photos of the two.


Photos and Quote From: http://www.pointdevue.fr/
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We don't get a lot of royal news where I live so at the risk of sounding clueless- who is Eva Sannum? Why is it improbable that they're still a couple now?

Also, just how tall is Prince Felipe. I saw that picture of him from the pascua militar and he seems to tower over everybody else.
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I believe that Felipe is 6'5".

Eva is a Norwegian model that Felipe used to date. If you go to the link below you will see a summary of the dating life of Felipe and Eva. It's in the fifth paragraph. I don't agree with all of the language that is used in this paragraph, but it will give you a summary of their dating life.

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Thanks. That clears some things up.

Four years is a long time to be together!

It doesn't say though why she was such an unpopular choice. Was it because she wasn't a Catholic? Was she bitchy?
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Hello curious!

From what I've heard Eva wasn't popular because she was an underwear model. She was also upopular with Felipe's mama, Queen Sofia, because of this and the fact that she is not of noble or royal blood (if I am wrong, please someone correct me&#33.
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Hi everyone!

Hi Curious! Julia, and Sylvia are right. Eva was really annoying to Queen Sophia. She just behaved in a very uncivilized manner. Not only was she known to model lingerie, but she also allowed herself to be photographed sunbathing topless while she and Felipe were dating-A definite "No-No."

I think that the fact that she wasn't Catholic was also a bit of an issue. Certainly, she could have converted if she wanted to do so, but the lingerie modeling and the topless photos were really far too much to even be considered the least bit appropriate for a CP/Queen of Spain.
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Well, I see why she wasn't a popular choice for future Spanish queen. Her not being Catholic nor royal did not seem like enough reason to consider her inappropriate for the position, especially in this day and age. But there is definitely something weird about having a queen whose breasts you've seen!

Anyway, thanks for all the info.
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Hi Curious!

Yep, the mystique and idea of graceful behavior kind of goes out the window!
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The press wrote something about him falling in love with and dating Crownprincess Victorias friend Anna Jussil??
They met at Solliden last summer and apparently fell in love...

Anyone knows something more about this??
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here´s a picture of her...she´s the girl on the right
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