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Old 04-30-2007, 09:14 AM
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Congratulations to the parents!

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if you are very attempt to the Spanish history yo can see than Don Juan was called de Bourbon y battenberg; Don Juan Carlos de Borbon i Borbon; Doña Sofia de Borbon i Grecia;
Actually, I think it's Sofía de Grecia y Dinamarca.

I think her real family name was Glücksburg, but it was changed to "Grecia" so that it would be easier to pronounce in Spanish.


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The Spanish naming systems pass down only the father's and maternal grandfather's surname, not the mother's. The new child's full surname is Sofia de Borbón y Ortiz, but if she was not royal, she would usually be referred to simply as Sofia de Borbón.
The current Spanish law allows for the parents to choose the order in which they give the surnames to their children, therefore the couple Juan Rebollo Pérez and María Andrade García can name their children eiter Rebollo Andrade or Andrade Rebollo. It's true that most parents follow the tradition and put the father's surname first.

Using both surnames or only one has nothing to do with being royal or not. In particular, I think Letizia liked to use both surnames (Ortiz Rocasolano) when she signed her work as a journalist.

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Sometimes a feminist or someone who dislikes his father will use the mother's maiden name instead or put it in the first position
I think a lot of people are known by the second surname (that is, ususally the surname from the mother's side) when the first surname is very common, without those people necessarily disliking their fathers or being feminists. For example:

Pablo Ruiz Picasso > Picasso
José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero (the Prime Minister) > Zapatero (a.k.a. "ZP")
Federico García Lorca > Lorca
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:23 AM
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Dear Duncan,
Certainly before her wedding the Queen was Sofia de Grecia i Denmark, but I think, may be I'm wrong , that since her wedding she is Sofia Borbon i Grecia. Actually that is the reality!
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:23 AM
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and from 20 minutos:
http://www.20minutos.es/data/img/2007/04/30/589174.jpg

and from terra.es:
http://actualidad.terra.es/addon/img...51dbdca26g.jpg
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:31 AM
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Princess Elena (C) arrives at Madrid's private hospital "Ruber Internacional" to visit Princess Letizia's new daughter April 30, 2007

http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070430/i...r606328898.jpg
Spain's Royal Family on Yahoo! News Photos
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070430/i...1126922313.jpg
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070430/i...3456843729.jpg
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:32 AM
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felicidades a los príncipes de asturias y a toda la familia real!!!!!!!!!!!!!

congratulations the princes of asturias and to the Spanish royal family
El Rey y Leonor visitarán mañana a la Infanta Sofía. diariosur.es

Una nueva infanta en la Casa Real

La segunda hija de los Príncipes recibirá el título de Infanta. diariosur.es
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:36 AM
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Dear Duncan,
Certainly before her wedding the Queen was Sofia de Grecia i Denmark, but I think, may be I'm wrong , that since her wedding she is Sofia Borbon i Grecia. Actually that is the reality!
I've never heard of the queen being named Sofía de Borbón. I think her maiden name was Glücksburg, and she adopted the surname Grecia after the wedding.

That's why her children are "de Borbón y Grecia", Borbón for their father and Grecia for their mother; if their mother's surname was Borbón, they would have been "de Borbón y Borbón".
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:46 AM
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Congratulations to the parents...I am waiting to see some photos of mother and daughter...more beautiful it will be with Leonor...let's see.

I love the outfit of Elena today!!! so spontaneous jeje
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:49 AM
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CONGRATULATIONS to LETI, FELIPE, LEONOR AND to the ROYAL FAMILY
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:04 AM
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The girl is called Sofia (de Todos los Santos) de Borbón Ortiz (without "y"). Here you have the link to Queen's biography from Casa Real web page:

Casa de Su Majestad el Rey de España

"(...)Tiene ocho nietos: Leonor y Sofía de Borbón Ortiz, hijas de los Príncipes de Asturias, Felipe y Victoria de Marichalar y de Borbón, hijos de la Infanta Elena y su esposo, D. Jaime de Marichalar, Duques de Lugo, y Juan, Pablo, Miguel e Irene Urdangarin y de Borbón, hijos de la Infanta Cristina y su esposo, D. Iñaki Urdangarin, Duques de Palma de Mallorca.(...)"
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:21 AM
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I'm really overjoyed that Letizia and Felipe had their girl after many hard months .. I'm glad she turned out healthy, but it's still sad that there are no more babies to be born left
What makes you say that? Has there been an announcement of some sort?
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:31 AM
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What makes you say that? Has there been an announcement of some sort?
I think MissSaga meant no more babies to wait this year (apart from Princess Aimee), not no more babies from the Princes - hopefully we'll see loads of beauties and handsome boys from the couple.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:36 AM
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Oh, okay..thanks for clearing that up..I was a bit worried..
Well, we still have Princess Aimee of the Netherlands but of course she is not in the same category..:)
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Congratulations Letizia, Felipe, Leonor and Spanish Royal Family
wellcome Princess Sofia
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She was wearing Converse All Star! Nice It's not the kind of shoes you expect to a princess wear but I liked it.
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Congratulations again to the family! Queen Sofia and Infanta Elena certainly seem extremely happy
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Old 04-30-2007, 12:50 PM
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Welcome little Infanta
Bienvenida S.A.R la Infanta Doña Sofia de Borbon
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CONGRATS to the princely couple!!!
BTW, any news of changing the succesion law???
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