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Old 01-19-2018, 11:30 AM
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Felipe received it in 1981 at the age of 13:
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Old 01-19-2018, 11:47 AM
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The Princess was granted the Order of the Golden Fleece by her father a few days before her 10th birthday this is the formal ceremony and really personal on the Kings 50th Birthday.

Hopefully Letizia will start getting some new orders in 2018.
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And actually the ladies version is a bow, not a collar. Like Queen Elizabeth is wearing here, at the recent Spanish State Visit:
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Princess of Asturias is twelve.
I stand corrected. She is twelve, but still too young to wear the collar comfortably.

Duc, is the pinned miniature the same insignia that is worn on a knight's necklace or on a dame's bow as Queen Elizabeth II wore at the Spanish state dinner, or is it smaller ?
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And actually the ladies version is a bow, not a collar. Like Queen Elizabeth is wearing here, at the recent Spanish State Visit:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/7e...faaeb2280f.jpg
I believe ladies can also wear the collar as Queen Beatrix is doing here .

The main difference seems to be that men also wear the necklace insignia (as King Juan Carlos is doing in the picture BTW), whereas ladies wear it on a bow ribbon.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:37 PM
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I thought Leonor already received the Order of the Golden Fleece on her 10th birthday? I remember reading about it back then.

So this is just an extra ceremony for the King to "officially putting the order on Leonor"?
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What determines when order is given? Does Infanta Sofia already have it?
I have seen Swedish royal babies wearing orders at their baptism . Just curious!
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What determines when order is given?
Spanish orders are given out by royal decree, which has to be countersigned by the King and one or more ministers in the Spanish government.

As an example, see below the royal decree conferring the collar of the Order of the Golden Fleece on Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom. It is signed by King Juan Carlos and then Spanish prime minister, Felipe Gonzalez.

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REAL DECRETO 441/1989, de 5 de mayo, por el que se
concede el Collar de la Insigne Orden del Toisón de Oro a
su Majestad la Reina Isabel II del Reino Unido de Gran
Bretaña e Irlanda del Norte.

Queriendo dar un relevante testimonio de Mi Real aprecio a Su
Majestad la Reina Isabel del Reino Unido de Gran Bretaña e Irlanda
del Norte, y en muestra de la tradicional amistad entre el Reino Unido
de Gran Bretaña e Irlanda del Norte y España;
Oído el Consejo de Ministros,
Vengo a concederle el Collar de la Insigne Orden del Toisón de Oro.

Dado en el Palacio de la Zarzuela a 5 de mayo de 1989.
JUAN CARLOS R.


El Presidente del Gobierno,
FELIPE GONZALEZ MARQUEZ
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Does Infanta Sofia already have it? I have seen Swedish royal babies wearing orders at their baptism . Just curious
As far as I know, Infanta Sofia doesn't have any order yet. As she grows older, she will probably get the Grand Cross of the "Royal and Distinguished Spanish Order of Carlos III", which is the same order that her mother, her aunts and her grandmother have. The Order of the Golden Fleece is normally reserved to the heir to the throne only.


In Sweden, orders are also given out by the King, but under regulations introduced by the Swedish government in 1974, orders could be bestowed only upon foreign nationals; however, those regulations were later amended to allow the King to give orders to members of the Royal Family in addition to foreign nationals or stateless persons. Traditionally, the Royal Order of the Seraphim was presented to princes of Sweden at their baptism, but they didn't actually start wearing it until they came of age. In the case of King Carl Gustaf's children specifically, they received their orders retroactively when they turned 18 as they couldn't get it when they were born under the unamended 1974 regulations. The regulations were actually amended in 1995, precisely the year when CP Victoria turned 18. The King's grandchildren (both male and female) got their orders at their christening ceremony, but again they won't wear it until they are 18.
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In Sweden, orders are also given out by the King, but under regulations introduced by the Swedish government in 1974, orders could be bestowed only upon foreign nationals; however, those regulations were later amended to allow the King to give orders to members of the Royal Family in addition to foreign nationals or stateless persons. Traditionally, the Royal Order of the Seraphim is bestowed on Swedish princes or princesses at their baptism, but they don't actually start wearing it until they come of age. In the case of King Carl Gustaf's children specifically, they received their orders retroactively when they turned 18 as they couldn't get it when they were born under the unamended 1974 regulations. The regulations were actually amended in 1995, precisely the year when CP Victoria turned 18.
Interesting is also that Queen Silvia was given the Order of the Seraphim before her Wedding when she was still had the german nationality.
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Interesting is also that Queen Silvia was given the Order of the Seraphim before her Wedding when she was still had the german nationality.
It was necessary since once married and a Swedish citizen it would've been illegal for her to receive the order. Just shows how ill thought through parts of the Agreement in Torekov was.
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The video has exclusive images of official events, and at the end the recording of the Christmas message with the whole family present and other family images.

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The images of the family during the speech recording, going to school and having lunch are so sweet. Leonor is a charming girl, I loved her telling to the cameraman: "but you're not going to show this, are you?", and watching her father's speech and applauding at the end, and her excitement when her own photography shows up.
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Unfortunately they have removed the video, probably the images were given to the press to prepare their material, but they could not be shown for a few days.
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Where is this from? Is it a special documentary or from the royal house or just from random reporters?
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:48 PM
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King Felipe really does have the presence of being a king, of all the younger generation of men that have become king in recent years, he stands out the most with the presence of kingship.
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the video is quite fun. i think by allowing cameras to see their family life they are trying to emulate other courts which traditionally are more press friendly (the dutch, the danish, the swedes), although we can definitely say there is a way to go to reach the transparency of those other courts. for some reason, the spanish still appear slightly stuffy.
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the video is quite fun. i think by allowing cameras to see their family life they are trying to emulate other courts which traditionally are more press friendly (the dutch, the danish, the swedes), although we can definitely say there is a way to go to reach the transparency of those other courts. for some reason, the spanish still appear slightly stuffy.
The last clip where the girls, if I understood it correctly, are listing the elements in the Periodic Table is quite odd. I mean, are we supposed to believe that, when they are alone with their parents in the car, they talk about Chemistry ?
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