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Old 05-24-2014, 06:42 AM
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Duc, really not all are so critical

You can not cover the sun with one finger, and when there is a scandal like Noos the press can not hide everything and not talk about it, less today with the Internet and social networks.

Issues of infidelity entertain the Spaniards, and Corinna as a lover, was far less dangerous than Corinna and her businesses... probably the press could have gone much further.

At this time all these newspapers are actively working in the campaign to restore the image of the King... the press is no stranger to the political and economic interests ... more when there is a crisis.

About the ratings ... the Royal House has kept Letizia in the background, with few official activities, her freedom of action is far from that of other European princesses... so for the press has been very easy to reduce her to a frivolous character and just talk about her clothes.

This week I have not read or seen in the press almost no reference to the official activities of Letizia or her social work. The most comprehensive information about that I have read in the French magazine Point de Vue. There the spokeswoman of Spanish Association Against Cancer, said that the Spanish press is not interested in know the work Letizia does with them, only in the clothes she wears.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:07 AM
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In comparison with an earlier investigation, the Princess has dropped a bit in the approval ratings in the 10th year of her marriagee: her approval rate is 50,1%. Monarchy is not about ration. Any rational thinking person would opt for a republic, I think. Monarchy is about emotion. Apparently Letizia does not apply on emotion, after all rationally seen, she has completed a faultless parcours, maybe the most perfect parcours of all "colleagues".
This is very true, we can easily see in other countries that the female spouses can make the rather blah heirs shine (Netherlands, Denmark). I work for a Dutch company and those colleagues still make fun of WA being rather bland, not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, 'Prince Pils', but Maxima woaaaahhhh etc.

In Spain, this didnt work. Long before the gossip press went into overdrive about Letizia, from the day of the engagement, it seemed that people didnt really warm up to her, for whatever reason. It may be because of the way she comes across to many people, cold, bossy, not authentic (even the Prince said that she needs to smile more) and the way she was being handled by the royal house. Her work conduct may be flawless, but it hasn't been enough to win people over. Now the image that has been fed by the gossip press over the last 10 years sticks and it will be difficult to turn emotions around.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:57 AM
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The attacks came from the first day of the engagement, from the moment she asked the Prince to let her keep talking, they were against her. Probably that is closely related to that in Spain there is still a segment of the very macho society, as is the Royal House itself. From that day and the continuous attacks of the press that made her putting out a wall to protect herself, that probably grew stronger with the death of her sister.

She is a serious person, but not a cold person, and that's what she must be allowed to demonstrate. For that they should reduce the serious and boring events and allow her to approach people. It would be good for her and the House.

I heard this week that the Spanish press wants Letizia, to be something of a perfect blend between Queen Sofia and Queen Máxima... very professional, always in her place, without a word, living enclosed in palace... while being spontaneous and with a permanent smile ... and that's impossible.

Actually the story of Queen Sofia in Spain was not different ... for years she was a woman in the background, seen as too cold. Only when she began to develop a more active social role, the voyages of cooperation and grandchildren were born, her image changed.
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Old 05-24-2014, 10:03 AM
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Well, it is nice that apparently many South-American posters (how do you know?)
The way of speaking
Even when you read it, South American Spanish is way different from the European one. Even within South America, any Spanish-speaker can tell if the person who writes is Mexican or Argetinian, for instance.
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These days some praise danish anniversary photos, but if Felipe and Letizia had done some pictures like that, they had criticized them for not posing for all the media, being kitschy, use photoshop ...
Yes. some of the ones that have praised the Danish photoshoot crticised one year ago the spending on Letizia´s 40th birthday photoshoot
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Old 05-24-2014, 10:25 AM
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The attacks came from the first day of the engagement, from the moment she asked the Prince to let her keep talking, they were against her. Probably that is closely related to that in Spain there is still a segment of the very macho society, as is the Royal House itself. From that day and the continuous attacks of the press that made her putting out a wall to protect herself, that probably grew stronger with the death of her sister.
I dont think it would have gone much differently without that famous sentence, it was her whole attitude, quite snappy/bossy, same the day before at their first outing at Zarzuela II, that didn't go down well.

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Actually the story of Queen Sofia in Spain was not different ... for years she was a woman in the background, seen as too cold. Only when she began to develop a more active social role, the voyages of cooperation and grandchildren were born, her image changed.
I am sure that will happen to Letizia too, people won't bother with her much anymore, she will become as boring as Queen Sofia for the public. Within the next 10 years the focus of the aggressive gossip magazines will probably change towards Leonor and Sofia, there is plenty of money to be made with the girls once they become adults and working royals.
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Within the next 10 years the focus of the aggressive gossip magazines will probably change towards Leonor and Sofia, there is plenty of money to be made with the girls once they become adults and working royals.
Poor girls, I am already fastening the seatbelts for them.... At the other hand: were the Spanish media ever so hostile, poisonous, virulent, toxic and negative to Doña Elena and Doña Crístina? There is something in Letizia which triggers the media.

Maybe there is also a hidden and non-spoken feeling: "Don't walk with your nose up into the air, girl. Don't pretend you are a Queen. We all know you are just one of us!" and Spaniards seem to like to ridicule and mock "climbers". Maybe that is tone he hidden sentiments? People can judge very harsh. Like in those British costume-dramas where girls from lower standings succeed in making a good marriage but then come into hell because of constant rejections which is always hidden and never in the face.

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Old 05-24-2014, 11:43 AM
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Elena and Cristina born infantas, just for that they are more protected. They were not particularly interesting or beautiful. The press is coward, to attack Marichalar, Urdangarin or Felipe´s girlfriends was always easier.

Spain is a gossip country, but Letizia arrival coincided with a time when that kind of press was omnipresent, half hours of television were filled with gossip... and also with the boom of social media and digital publications. Letizia became a very profitable media magnet.
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The image portrayed here of the Spaniards, and of their press [in particular] is a very sorry one. I feel deeply for the princess and her daughters if this is a true reflection of the way they are treated.

And i thought the British press were bad !
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The image portrayed here of the Spaniards, and of their press [in particular] is a very sorry one. I feel deeply for the princess and her daughters if this is a true reflection of the way they are treated.

And i thought the British press were bad !
Such a shame that certain elements of the Spanish media cannot focus on the fact that Letizia is a wonderful support to Prince Felipe, a doting & protective mother and one of the hardest working royals in Europe!
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This is very true, we can easily see in other countries that the female spouses can make the rather blah heirs shine (Netherlands, Denmark). I work for a Dutch company and those colleagues still make fun of WA being rather bland, not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, 'Prince Pils', but Maxima woaaaahhhh etc.

In Spain, this didnt work. Long before the gossip press went into overdrive about Letizia, from the day of the engagement, it seemed that people didnt really warm up to her, for whatever reason. It may be because of the way she comes across to many people, cold, bossy, not authentic (even the Prince said that she needs to smile more) and the way she was being handled by the royal house. Her work conduct may be flawless, but it hasn't been enough to win people over. Now the image that has been fed by the gossip press over the last 10 years sticks and it will be difficult to turn emotions around.
A royal man got married, has a few kids, grows some grey hair. Marriage and kids help to bring stability and maturity to a man. Of course some countries' pro monarchy press can praise their wives to bring that stability, but that just happened to every married royal man of this generation.

The last 10 years at least Letizia has made two big contributions to Felipe's royal career in a very difficult situation. Everyone in the Spanish press says these days Felipe's speech in Argentina, then the PoA awards, was a turning point of the public view, it was Letizia who had urged him to improve his pubic speaking since day one and had worked with him. The second thing Letizia had helped him to see more clearly Noos' business before the scandal broke. So Felipe was neither a complicit nor being seen leaving blind eyes as his parents (sure JC switched side when the scandal broke) or sister Elena. I doubt Felipe would be able to shine as today without the help of a woman with Letizia's background.
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I dont think it would have gone much differently without that famous sentence, it was her whole attitude, quite snappy/bossy, same the day before at their first outing at Zarzuela II, that didn't go down well.

I am sure that will happen to Letizia too, people won't bother with her much anymore, she will become as boring as Queen Sofia for the public. Within the next 10 years the focus of the aggressive gossip magazines will probably change towards Leonor and Sofia, there is plenty of money to be made with the girls once they become adults and working royals.
She probably can dress better, smile more, but where was Letizia's so called bossy attitude ? She might be bossy in private, but hardly displayed it in public. Even when she said 'let me finish', she said it in a playful way and Felipe was laughing, nothing bossy about. Of course, if a certain sector of press wanted to project a certain image on her, it's not so hard for them to do it, just as 'repeating a lie a thousand times, it becomes the true'.

The girls will certainly become the focus of the press attention in 10 years, especially Leonor with her position, her beauty. But I doubt they will be so harshly judged or criticized like their mom as along as they don't do unethical (criminal) things like Auntie Cristina. Bottom line they are the born royals. Take an example of two high profile foreign royals in Spain Diana and Caroline of Monaco. Diana had always been harshly criticized by the conservative press in Spain, Caroline of Monaco not so much.
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Prince Felipe and Princess Letizia visit the El Greco Exhibition at Santa Cruz Museum in Toledo to celebrate their tenth weeding anniversary

Their Tenth Weeding Anniversary!?! That must have been one heck of an exceptional flower bed for them to publicly celebrate the weeding of it.

Sorry, but I just could not resist. :) :)

Out of the two Royal Brides of May 2004, Letitzia dress was my favourite and has a place in my top five list of All Time Favourite Royal Wedding Dresses. There was something just so regal about it and I loved how the neck ruffle/collar framed Letitzia's face so beautifully. Then there was Felipe looking so dashing in his Military Uniform and...Well...There's not much you say in a negative way about a Groom in Uniform IMO. :)

Ten years and two adorable girls later, I think TRH are doing an excellent job of things considering all that is swirling around them. We all know what's going on, so won't rehash it, but IMO both have acted and conducted themselves w/a great deal of dignity. Considering all that has and continues to happen, I can't begin to imagine how hard it must be to be in the Public Eye constantly, w/all the rumours and what not going on, and keep on holding your head high and just getting the job done. All I'd want to do is crawl into bed and cry if our positions were switched, so I have a great deal of respect for both of them.

I hope they had a lovely day privately celebrating it w/those two adorable little girls of theirs.

A very Happy 10th Wedding Anniversary to Felipe and Letizia!! :)
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