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Old 02-11-2007, 08:17 PM
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I usually don't post, but as a Catholic trained in Theology I have to say something.

The stance on suicide in the Catholic church has changed and I think there needs to be clarification.

Officially, suicide is considered to be a result of some mental defect or illness. Yes, in older days the Church did state it was a sin. It is not anymore! That doesn't stop many Catholics (or those taught by uniformed Catholics) from thinking of it that way.

Again, the official stance is that we can not judge a soul and that we understand that what occurs is between them and God. You will notice that she will receive the Catholic rites and permission for burial just the same as any other Catholic who dies. We no longer hold the stigma on suicide.

Do you have PROVE of that¿
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Old 02-11-2007, 08:19 PM
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it's the picture that just breaks your heart. personally, i don't think that Letizia is looking at the camera at all. looking more closely, you can see that her eyes don't really looking at anything at all;
You are right, her eyes are empty. She looks completely absent.

For me this pictures is extremely pathetic.
Also to this pic


http://i6.tinypic.com/2zje55c.jpg
Source : ElPais

I think these two are the worst.
She looks so lonely, so desperate.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:12 PM
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Prince Felipe looks absent too..
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:14 PM
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I think its so ironic sometimes the things you come across in life and the things you do.

Look at this video for instance.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:27 PM
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yes, the photo of hola is terrible, letizia and her sister look so so sad, I hope Erika can be in peace, I see some photos of carla, and it's terrible that the press don't leave a girl of 7 years old alone and in peace after lost her mother
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:30 PM
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I think its so ironic sometimes the things you come across in life and the things you do.

Look at this video for instance.
Yes yassy...it´s really ironic
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:31 PM
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yes, the photo of hola is terrible, letizia and her sister look so so sad, I hope Erika can be in peace, I see some photos of carla, and it's terrible that the press don't leave a girl of 7 years old alone and in peace after lost her mother
Where are you see this photos??
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:40 PM
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Click on the link in post 658 to see the photo.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:44 PM
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Click on the link in post 658 to see the photo.
...This link is a photo of Letizia and Thelma
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:45 PM
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That pic of Telma with letizia is so just touching glad to see that telma is their with her family.
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:50 PM
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I talked about the photos of the little Carla .… where can I see them?
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:51 PM
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Where are you see this photos??
in face to face you can see the photos of carla with her grandmother and her dad
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Old 02-11-2007, 09:57 PM
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Thanks..
I hope that the press does not oppress much to this family, specially to Carla.
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I wanted to cry when I first read the news on glocalia.com of Letizia's sister Erika passing away. I want to share my condolences with the Ortiz family and the royal members. I'm sorry to hear this to have happened. I wish nothing but the best for all people who knew or are close to Erika. I personally hope that the media treat the delicate circumstance with the utmost respect for the family's wishes. My love and empathy to you all in this time of woe. May you find a path towards peace and goodness. Sincerely yours, George.
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Old 02-11-2007, 10:45 PM
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http://www.hola.com/casasreales/2007...l-erika-7a.jpg

I think this picture says it all (picture courtesy of Hola)
That has got to be the most depressing picture of the Princess I've ever seen. I hope she recovers from the terrible loss of her sister very soon.
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I wonder if it was such a short notice only royals living nearby could travel to attend. The Bulgarian Royals (like the Greek Royals) have strong ties with Spain so it's kind of their adopted home away from home. If they have residences in Spain it would make it easier to travel than a 'seated' Royal family that has to go to all kinds of protocol and security for their visits.
Maybe.
But I don't buy the "they know Felipe not Letizia" (in reference to P Frederick and PHaakon not being there). Felipe and Letizia are a couple and if anything where to happen to the siblings or parents, friends need to be there.

Now, I am not familiar with the protocol and invitation custom but my family is catholic and when my husband's uncle passed away, my family was there. They did not know my husband's uncle and for some of my family members, my husband, but they know me and out of respect for me and my husband. This is a funeral not a gathering.
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Yes zarzuela I think it's most depressing I've seen too. The gesture of Thelma is so sweet, trying to comfort her big sister..

It's very sad to see a pregnant lady that sad, these are the moments she most needs the support of her husband and family and Im pretty sure she's getting it.
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Old 02-12-2007, 12:42 AM
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Yes yassy...it´s really ironic
What does Letizia say in the YouTube video?
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In my opinion if she is not a known public person why she gave an interviwe to a journalist? Let me explain better, everyone told that this shlould be a private funeral because she was not a public person, a member of the oryal family so why expose herserlf? Her sister didn't do that?
It wasn't supposed to be an interview. If you read the article they both agreed that the journalist wouldn't publish it; it was done in 2004. And now that Erika is dead obviously she broke her promise and printed their conversation.
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Thanks..
I hope that the press does not oppress much to this family, specially to Carla.
But you know they will, much more now.
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