Death of Erika Ortiz, Princess Letizia's Sister: February 7, 2007


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I read about it this morning, the loss of their daugther brought to my mind when Empress Farah of Iran loss her daugther in similar circumstances.

I was touched by the way the inmediate and extended members of the Spanish Royal Family became so united and supportive with Letizia's family.
 
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fanprincipesasturi said:
that man has a pathological madness by letizia
YouTube - Pilar Rahola: "A Jaime Peñafiel se le ha ido la mano"
and that that this woman, is republican!
vivan los príncipes de asturias!!!
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Wow! can the vindictive Penafiel go any lower? His issues with the Royal family don't let go even in this time of pain for Letizia and her family. Bravo for Pilar Rahola not only for defending the right of the family to mourn in peace the loss of their child but Pilar also told the other reporter in the air to 'shut up' (silencio!) when she brought up Penafiel's press article attacking Erika. She even went further to tell Penafiel on the air to get psychiatric help himself for his pathological obsession against Letizia.

(ps. there is another thread in the Forum that explains the background between Penafiel's rage against the Queen, I don't want to waste one more font on him here. :mad:
 
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Just so sad to watch!

I have some questions for those who know royal matters.

Where there no other royals there?
I mean, not for representation of country but friendship. I would have liked to see Prince Fredrick there as he is a good friend of Prince Felipe and it is his wife's sister who died. Same with Prince Haakon maybe. Not in any royal capacity but just friendship.

Also with the YouTube video, were they clapping when Queen Sofia was getting in the car? why?
 
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I'm glad that The Queen and other members of the RF attended, this picture shows how much support Letizia is recieving from her in-laws. Such a warm and caring hug between Sofia and Letizia.
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Sofia is always so sweet about her subtle gestures of affection, isn't she? They are brief and not always immediately apparent, but that is just part of what makes them so meaningful, I guess.
 
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Is Letizia holding hands with someone here? :ermm: Poor Felipe, he looks so bewildered by it all :sad:
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yes, she is holding hands with her grandfather.

what an emotive set of pictures. my favourite image of the day: francisco, grandfather of letizia, being escorted by letizia and by elena on the other side. a real gesture from elena in my opinion. i have the impression francisco sometimes feels "out of place", quite normal i must say as he passed from being a normal person to being in the spotlight all the time -as the media knows they will get information from him because he is very down to earth- to being the princess' grandfather. the fact elena holded his hand was an amazing gesture. BRAVO elena, chapeau!

i'm glad to see everyone looks a lot better today than the day of the incineration.
 
unlikeanygirl said:
Where there no other royals there?
I mean, not for representation of country but friendship. I would have liked to see Prince Fredrick there as he is a good friend of Prince Felipe and it is his wife's sister who died. Same with Prince Haakon maybe. Not in any royal capacity but just friendship.
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even if haakon and frederik are friends with felipe, i doubt they are that close to letizia, and even if they were... i think this is quite an intimate matter. i'm not sure on how close the relationship with them must be, but i doubt it is that close to invite them to her sister's funeral.

some questions:

in this photo, the queen and paloma are walking with their right hands on their chest. why is that? is it a protocolar rule? i noticed that sofia normally walks like that, although it may be just to prevent her scarf from flying away...)

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i was told about a video of antonio walking with carla and two other women yesterday. he apparently was telling carla in the video "how she is the most beautiful daughter in the world". anyone knows anything else on this?
 
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carlota said:
...some questions:

in this photo, the queen and paloma are walking with their right hands on their chest. why is that? is it a protocolar rule? i noticed that sofia normally walks like that, although it may be just to prevent her scarf from flying away...)

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It looks to me they are just holding on to the coat's lapel. I don't think it means anything else, the right hand could be they are just right handed. When I go out (and we are in freezing weather over here) I too use the right hand to hold on to the coat, scarf or hat.

On the above video, the moment the Queen appears she gets an applause but it does not look as something disrespectful. Seems to me more of the expectation on her to arrive from her long trip and take charge of protecting Letizia's mother by holding on to her, while Letizia and Elena escorted the grandfather walking right behind them.
 
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Toledo said:
Wow! can the vindictive Penafiel go any lower?
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Well, tonight, in "Saturday Sweet Life" he went to great lenghts to make up for that.

He called Letizia "Sister Courage". (One more ridiculous statement I add to my collection.)

He was referring to the fact that, according to his sources from the royal house, Letizia left the palace in the morning the body was discovered and, without Felipe, went to the apartment where her dead sister and her parents were. She did so against the advice of the resident doctor and of the house personnel. Other journalists on the "Saturday Sweet Life" set confirmed this trip by Letizia, according to their own royal house sources.
 
thanks toledo, it may just be that.

by the way, in one of the videos of the arrival of the family to the funeral there is sagrario ruiz de apodaca reporting. she is not only a journalist, but a close friend of letizia and felipe and she and her husband were invited to the wedding. she was also the one to inform in tve about felipe and letizia during their engagement period. it was also said that the princes spent more than one afternoon with her and her husband, lorenzo mila. i found it interesting that they chose her to report the news as she is also a close friend of the couple, perhaps letizia prefered her to do it instead of anyone else.
 
Duncan said:
Well, tonight, in "Saturday Sweet Life" he went to great lenghts to make up for that.

He called Letizia "Sister Courage". (One more ridiculous statement I add to my collection.)

He was referring to the fact that, according to his sources from the royal house, Letizia left the palace in the morning the body was discovered and, without Felipe, went to the apartment where her dead sister and her parents were. She did so against the advice of the resident doctor and of the house personnel. Other journalists on the "Saturday Sweet Life" set confirmed this trip by Letizia, according to their own royal house sources.
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Thanks Duncan! :)
Letizia did what anyone would have done. You forget any advice and think only of going to where your sister is to help out. Depression is a very complicated matter that sometimes you just can't tell. One of my fellow office workers battled it all his adult life and no one knew about it in the office. And then he ended everything last november 2005. We just don't know what goes on when a person decides to take his or her life to end the pain other people don't realize they have.

Thanks everyone for all those video feds from Your Tube. Some are being moved out of their links but I'm trying to watch as many as possible right now...
 
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Toledo said:
Letizia did what anyone would have done.
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I agree.

An interesting detail is that there was a rumour on Wednesday about Letizia having gone to the apartment. Later, some journalists made it clear that their sources from the royal house had strongly denied that. (On Saturday night, the royal house press service sent a message to a TV denying that Prince Felipe had gone to the apartment, a fact nobody had claimed.)

To Carlota: you might know that Sagrario's husband, Lorenzo Milá, is responsible for the evening news on the first channel of Spanish public television, TVE. He occupies the same post that Alfredo Urdaci, Letizia's former boss, used to have. Both the Milás and the Urdacis are reportedly close friends of Letizia. Nevertheless, I don't know if the friendship with Urdaci is still going on, as he fell in disgrace and eventually metamorphosed into a comedian.
 
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I only had time to post about this awful evenement today...Poor Letizia. It must be awful to lost a sister in such a way when you are pregnant. Besides the deep sorrow of lossing a sister, it's the one of knowing that your newborn will never know her aunty in this life...:cry:

Vanesa.
 
carlota said:
even if haakon and frederik are friends with felipe, i doubt they are that close to letizia, and even if they were... i think this is quite an intimate matter. i'm not sure on how close the relationship with them must be, but i doubt it is that close to invite them to her sister's funeral.
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I guess. But you go to funeral of people you are not close to but out of respect. Felipe is their friend and Letizia is his wife whether they know her or not.

But then that is what we would do and it may not be their custom.
Or maybe they where not invited or had no time to get there.
 
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Vanesa said:
I only had time to post about this awful evenement today...Poor Letizia. It must be awful to lost a sister in such a way when you are pregnant. Besides the deep sorrow of lossing a sister, it's the one of knowing that your newborn will never know her aunty in this life...:cry:

Vanesa.
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Oh my God, that's really sad....:cry:
 
unlikeanygirl said:
carlota said:
even if haakon and frederik are friends with felipe, i doubt they are that close to letizia, and even if they were... i think this is quite an intimate matter. i'm not sure on how close the relationship with them must be, but i doubt it is that close to invite them to her sister's funeral.

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I guess. But you go to funeral of people you are not close to but out of respect. Felipe is their friend and Letizia is his wife whether they know her or not.

But then that is what we would do and it may not be their custom.
Or maybe they where not invited or had no time to get there.
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Kubrat and Constantin of Bulgaria were there, they are very close to the princes
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A little OT, but is that really Telma's hair you think? It looks......heavy.
 
planetcher said:
A little OT, but is that really Telma's hair you think? It looks......heavy.
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I noticed her hair too but I didn't know if it was appropriate to say something...but I think it looks really pretty!
 
my condolences to CPss Letizia and her family. i read in an article that Erika's daughter Carla was not aware of her mother's death. Maybe they would tell her when the time is right.. she's only 6 years old and she lost her mother... i can't imagine what will be her reaction when she finally found out. such a terrible loss.
 
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I noticed her hair too but I didn't know if it was appropriate to say something...but I think it looks really pretty!
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I wouldn't recommend that hair if you live in the Philippines like she does now. Next month is summer over there, scorching hottt.

Okay back to Erika.
 
unlikeanygirl said:
Also with the YouTube video, were they clapping when Queen Sofia was getting in the car? why?
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I was wondering about the applause too. It seemed inappropriate, like the people gathered there thought they were watching something manufactured for their entertainment.
 
royaltywatcher said:
I was wondering about the applause too. It seemed inappropriate, like the people gathered there thought they were watching something manufactured for their entertainment.
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what the reporter said is that is a sign of condolence, like a sign of support to the princess and the prince of Asturias. Is like to say :"we are here, with you"
 
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