Roshanah
Nobility
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Reina said:Thanks again for your explanation. I am glad you are upfront about this issue. But I have read about how cloistered society can be when it is like this. DOn't get me wrong, I believe ppl should wait till they get married to have sexual relations. In fact, in the church we are taught to wait until marriage and to not fornicate. However, ppl do make mistakes and fall into sin. Increasingly, churches are realizing this and providing services to help single parents. But most importantly they are providing love, non-judgment, understanding, and encouragement to get back in the Word and draw closer to Him. But in order to prevent ppl from fornicating and other sins or to get out of that and other sins is that we are teaching them what the Word says and encouraging them to have a relationship w/ Christ. The church is talkign about these issues upfront, so ppl will know the Biblical stance on these types of issues. It definitely helps alot.
Now it seems that although fornication and other sins are discouraged in Muslim society, don't you think that it will only lead the young ones into other ways of doing sinful stuff. Such as different types of relations that might not break the hymen, homosexuality, getting surgery to replace the hymen, etc? I wonder what the religious ppl have to say. And what about if a girl is rape and most of the time she is blamed. She gets killed, but it wasn't her fault. Now, personally I don't think the issue of honor killings will ever get solved b/c it is too fundamental in belief and creed. But I hope some ppl will realize what's up and behave better in regards to this issue. Of course not everyone does it. But even if one was killed as a result of honor killings would be too much. But I think what would definitely help is love, especially love coming from religious authorities and the community.
Thank you so much at least someone understand what I was saying and didn't misinterpret it. To answer your question part of the problem in certain cases has been due to the dogmatic way in which Certain members of Al-Ulama (Religious schollars inc Jurists) have taught such a subject. Many have taught that in many cases there is only one way to performing Islam. Some within the community have found that stifling and have either chosen to no longer practice the religion. In addition, some have left the faith altogether.
As to whether or not certain individuals have performed or would perform such in the future, as a means for hiding the aforesaid, I really have no Idea. One could Ideally say that such people are Muslims and wouldn't do such a thing and most wouldn't (one hopes.) As for the others I don't know what's in their minds either and can only make suppositions.
No if a girl/Woman has been raped Islam doesn't blame her because there is nothing that could have prevented it. Although in the past some have tried to blame girls/women for the act.
I agree with you. However in some cases (I've personally witnessed them) it has been about pride and some have not been so willing to show lenience. Especially, in societies where it's about reputation etc.
There have been some that have tended to other relations, which don't break the hymen but have done it in secret. Hence when they marry not many outside the their close circle of friends and maybe certain relatives know.
Also it depends upon where they hang out, ie going to Coffee Houses, a friends House etc.
Many of Al-Ulama have shown understanding but others have gone for the jugular. Thereafter because of the rules in society many have not wanted to go against the judgements. I hope this helps
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