Reasons Why Queen Rania Is a Hard Working Queen

[monamona]

It is naive to say that spending could be the same whether you are an European royalty or a jordanian...This is a very simplistic view..

Spending needs to be seen in a context [where you are coming from, who are your people, the economic and political situation of the country, how long have you been a royal, what is the source of the money you are spending from, is there a minium of decent living in the country you are serving, etc...)

Rania is overdoing in all aspects...she is even more that those rich royal families of Europe who have been existing for so many many years (centuries)...I understand her insecurities and her efforts to hide them through the perfect look in all aspects (plastic surgeries, top designers clothes and so on)....
I give 100% mark in her efforts to dress super elegant...and this is where all her efforts are targeted ...she is a hardworking queen in making HER OWN SELF looking THE VERY BEST regardless of how much it costs and whatever the source of the money

[sommone]

Originally Posted by monamona

It is naive to say that spending could be the same whether you are an European royalty or a jordanian...This is a very simplistic view..

Spending needs to be seen in a context [where you are coming from, who are your people, the economic and political situation of the country, how long have you been a royal, what is the source of the money you are spending from, is there a minium of decent living in the country you are serving, etc...)

Rania is overdoing in all aspects...she is even more that those rich royal families of Europe who have been existing for so many many years (centuries)...I understand her insecurities and her efforts to hide them through the perfect look in all aspects (plastic surgeries, top designers clothes and so on)....
I give 100% mark in her efforts to dress super elegant...and this is where all her efforts are targeted ...she is a hardworking queen in making HER OWN SELF looking THE VERY BEST regardless of how much it costs and whatever the source of the money

Not being rude, but you're a little late. I'm finished debating this topic. I think I made myself clear when I said I won't be turning a blind eye to any of the royals spending, nor will I make a difference for some, and not all. As my mom would say, right is right, and right ain't never wronged anybody.:) I honestly hate that I got involved in this particular debate as I have always tried to avoid this topic for obvious reasons. I won't judge just one, and not hold others accountable, sorry. If you want to, that's fine. That's your right. As far as whether Rania is a hard working queen, I feel her choice of clothing have nothing to do with how hard she may or may not work. If you are going to speculate based upon some pictures, and make that kind of judgement, then that's your perogative. :)

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by sommone

I won't be turning a blind eye to any of the royals spending, nor will I make a difference for some, and not all. As my mom would say, right is right, and right ain't never wronged anybody.:) I honestly hate that I got involved in this particular debate as I have always tried to avoid this topic for obvious reasons. I won't judge just one, and not hold others accountable, sorry. If you want to, that's fine. That's your right. As far as whether Rania is a hard working queen, I feel her choice of clothing have nothing to do with how hard she may or may not work. If you are going to speculate based upon some pictures, and make that kind of judgement, then that's your perogative. :)

If life and the world were fair then your assessment would be right and I would agree with you. It wouldn't be right to apply one rule or principle to one queen but not to all the queens.

But life isn't fair and life is different the world over. Even in one country or one region there are different living standards and lifestyles.

Just as Rania deals with different social issues in Jordan, so does Margrethe in Denmark, Paola in Belgium, Sofia in Spain. In Spain the Basque Separatists frequently target the Spanish royals and make attempts on their lives and constantly put the family in danger. Hence the Spanish royals, especially the King and Queen and the Prince and Princess of Asturias are carefully monitored by security. In Denmark nobody is trying to assassinate Margrethe, Henrik, Frederik or Mary.

Or just like in Denmark the expectations of their royals are more relaxed and free so Mary can do three interviews in two months and pose for photographs in glossy magazines if she wants to. But in Spain that would be unheard of for Letizia to do this.

The same applies to spending. Just because Margrethe can spend $8,000 on a fur jacket and not give it a second thought doesn't mean that Rania can buy a $3,000 Gautier evening gown and not give it a second thought.

Life in Denmark isn't the same as life in Jordan and their queens should adjust their spending habits and carry on their roles accordingly as to what is appropriate for their own country and their people. You shouldn't try to keep up with the Jones's or say that because Margrethe has a new fur coat its okay for Rania to have one too. If life were that fair then we wouldn't have such a hierarcial and elitist system as monarchies - everyone could be kings and queens then and no matter what you think of Rania or her spending, that isn't really how life is.

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by monamona

It is naive to say that spending could be the same whether you are an European royalty or a jordanian...This is a very simplistic view..

Spending needs to be seen in a context [where you are coming from, who are your people, the economic and political situation of the country, how long have you been a royal, what is the source of the money you are spending from, is there a minium of decent living in the country you are serving, etc...)

Rania is overdoing in all aspects...she is even more that those rich royal families of Europe who have been existing for so many many years (centuries)...I understand her insecurities and her efforts to hide them through the perfect look in all aspects (plastic surgeries, top designers clothes and so on)....

Good post.

Even though other countries like Denmark and Sweden have poor people in their countries, the poor people in those countries don't outnumber the rich people like is the case in Jordan.

Saying that there is poor people everywhere, while true, also needs to be taken into context as noted.

Countries like Denmark and Sweden have welfare programs and other social assistance programs to aid their poorer citizens. Jordan does not or at least not to the extensive degree that first world nations do. Even if the poorer citizens of Denmark and Sweden cannot afford fur coats like their queens own, they can at least feed their families. In Jordan feeding your families is not always as certain or guaranteed. Even working citizens in Jordan make very little and struggle to feed, clothe and shelter their families.

In that context, to have a queen who spends so lavishly and lives such an exorbitant life is out of place and insensitive to the needs of her citizens.

Rania is trying through her physical appearance to look like she is the queen of a western country when she is the queen of a Middle Eastern country. Queens in western countries can lead different lives than queens of poor Middle Eastern nations because their people live different lives.

Originally Posted by monamona

I give 100% mark in her efforts to dress super elegant...and this is where all her efforts are targeted ...she is a hardworking queen in making HER OWN SELF looking THE VERY BEST regardless of how much it costs and whatever the source of the money

That she does very well. She works tirelessly to achieve this. At this she works the hardest of any of the queens and crown princesses.

[Reina]

But again they do invest their money and many royasl families have downsized. I just don'tm think they they have a big affect on the lives of the poor like Jordanian royals do.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Reina

But again they do invest their money and many royasl families have downsized. I just don'tm think they they have a big affect on the lives of the poor like Jordanian royals do.

Ok Reina, if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel right? Why don't we agree to disagree, and move on.:)

[Reina]

All right we all agree to disagree! Anyway so hwat is the topic again?

[Reina]

I really don't think the Euro. royals are reckless spenders. In fact I think b/c the histroy that countries in the Western hemisphere have with capitalsim, democracy, etc., that they are mor eapt to save and spend their money wisely. Hence recycling of clothes, incvesting, etc., etc.

I forgot hwat the topic is

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Reina

I forgot hwat the topic is

There seems to be a discrepancy in the topic. The original topic said something different, but what was replaced now says "Reasons why Queen Rania is a hard working queen." Nothing to do with her clothing, or spending, but her topics seem to take that direction at times.:)

[Zina]

Originally Posted by sommone

There seems to be a discrepancy in the topic. The original topic said something different, but what was replaced now says "Reasons why Queen Rania is a hard working queen." Nothing to do with her clothing, or spending, but her topics seem to take that direction at times.:)

I suggest that the thread title be changed 'coz it's QR's spending & clothing, that seems to interest us most, not her work.:)

[Balqis]

Originally Posted by sommone

There seems to be a discrepancy in the topic. The original topic said something different, but what was replaced now says "Reasons why Queen Rania is a hard working queen." Nothing to do with her clothing, or spending, but her topics seem to take that direction at times.:)

I agree, Sommone. I gave up on this thread a while back. It seems to me the only thing people can fault Rania is what she wears and they just keep on and on and on...

No one has really proven she doesn't work hard and that's half the point of this thread I believe

[cute_girl]

Originally Posted by Balqis

I agree, Sommone. I gave up on this thread a while back. It seems to me the only thing people can fault Rania is what she wears and they just keep on and on and on...

No one has really proven she doesn't work hard and that's half the point of this thread I believe

as far as I'm following sommone's posts I think that her opinion is not that rania is a hardworking queen,she says that all royalties are the same in spending ways and for you would you please give us a proof that she works hard?

[sommone]

Originally Posted by cute_girl

as far as I'm following sommone's posts I think that her opinion is not that rania is a hardworking queen,she says that all royalties are the same in spending ways and for you would you please give us a proof that she works hard?

Honest, cute_girl, I allowed myself to get caught up in a discussion, that I said in a previous post, I usually avoid. In the process, I managed to stray from the topic at hand. I think that it is a matter of opinion in whether people deem if QR works hard or not. Like I said before, hardwork means different things for different people. I think she is doing a good job myself, but some may think she could do more.

[Monalisa]

Originally Posted by Balqis

No one has really proven she doesn't work hard and that's half the point of this thread I believe

Come on,and no one has not proven that she does work hardly either !

All what has proven here and in other threads that rania gives a special interest for her look which does changed a lot from before 1999 and after !


I don't think that it needs to be justifyed or to be proven that she works hardly or not,if she works and serves good her peolple,her works would talk for itself and would not need all that blah blah .... !

[closesttoheaven]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

Come on,and no one has not proven that she does work hardly either !

All what has proven here and in other threads that rania give a special interest for her look which does changed a lot from before 1999 and after !


I don't think that it needs to be justifyed or to be proven that she works hardly or not,if she works and serves good her peolple,her works would talk for itself and would not need all that blah blah .... !

lol - youre so right

[sommone]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

Come on,and no one has not proven that she does work hardly either !

All what has proven here and in other threads that rania give a special interest for her look which does changed a lot from before 1999 and after !


I don't think that it needs to be justifyed or to be proven that she works hardly or not,if she works and serves good her peolple,her works would talk for itself and would not need all that blah blah .... !

Then there is no need for this thread, or the original before the title was changed is there? I agree, her work should speak for itself. Some will say it does, while others will say it doesn't.

[Balqis]

Originally Posted by Monalisa

Come on,and no one has not proven that she does work hardly either !

That's your very personal opinion, Monalisa.

Instead of actually sifting through the information I and others provided about the work and the issues Rania is focusing on, this thread has moved on to something else; talking about what Rania wears and how much she spends.

Originally Posted by Monalisa

All what has proven here and in other threads that rania gives a special interest for her look which does changed a lot from before 1999 and after !

Well that's because it is pretty much all we hear from certain members. It doesn't mean that that's the only thing the Queen is known for and admired for at home or on the international scene. You and others seem to pretty much disregard the information supplied here and elsewhere and focus on only what seems to prove your viewpoint. And that doesn't make it true.

Originally Posted by Monalisa

I don't think that it needs to be justifyed or to be proven that she works hardly or not,if she works and serves good her peolple,her works would talk for itself and would not need all that blah blah .... !

I agree with that, and they do, her good works speak for themselves.

[sommone]

Thanks for breaking the monotony in this thread with pictures, Balqis...although, I know that isn't the reason why you are putting them in the thread. :) Looks to me, Rania was very busy during the month of October of 2003. I'm still trying to figure out how you determine if someone is hard working by looking at the picture? I mean, when I look at the pictures and the dates, I know that she must have been really busy.

[Balqis]

Originally Posted by sommone

Thanks for breaking the monotony in this thread with pictures, Balqis...although, I know that isn't the reason why you are putting them in the thread. :)

You're welcome, Sommone :)

Originally Posted by sommone

Looks to me, Rania was very busy during the month of October of 2003. I'm still trying to figure out how you determine if someone is hard working by looking at the picture? I mean, when I look at the pictures and the dates, I know that she must have been really busy.

Hopefully the information I am providing as well will help. We will see

It's a nice and fun experiment nonetheless :)

[Balqis]

October 22:

Queen Rania attends the opening session of the first meeting of Cross-Cultural Dialogue organised by the Jordanian Executive Committee for the Arab Women’s Summit where she underlined that dialogue is a vital tool that enables people to connect and reach out to each other in a spirit of common understanding, frank exchange, and goodwill. Queen Rania is the President of the Arab Women's Summit for 2002-2004.

She has meetings with Ms. Mary Robinson, former UN Commissioner for Human Rights and Dr. Mervat Tellawi, ESCWA Executive Director.