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Old 09-03-2005, 05:39 PM
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How exactly is that courage????If you really want to see courage check this website out. http://www.nwhp.org/whm/all-honorees.html
Rania is not an American woman. She is an Arab, Muslim Queen.
Many of the things she talks of and causes she's devoted to are taboos and not even mentioned by most people in her region, ie. sexual abuse of children, honour killing etc.
Giving Jordanian women a small business loan through the micro-entrepreneurship intiative by Rania is involved in, so they have the freedom to earn their own living may not mean much to you but im sure it does to those whose lives depend on it.
Perhaps if she single-handedly cured all her country's problems, she'll deserve some praise in your estimation. She has, after all, been Queen for all of 6 years.
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Old 09-03-2005, 05:41 PM
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Just because you think others deserve an award doesnt mean that it cant also be awarded to Queen Rania. She has been receiving these awards for years, several during this year alone for all her work or for specific causes. Obviously all of those organizations think she deserves them. That wont change because you happen to disagree.
Angelina Jolie works for the cause of refugees. Rania works and talks about women's rights, childrens' causes, econmic causes like micro-entrepreneurship, interfaith dialogue etc. Whether you think that means anything or not is irrelevant since you're not giving these awards out nor do you decide who gets them.
Even celebrities get honorary citizenships, keys to cities, for doing nothing but being entertainers. Do you think their work is somehow more worthy than Rania's?
So calm down, its an honorary citizenship of the city of Milan, not the Nobel prize.
First of, Iam calm. Second, those entertainers are being given those honors because they have represented their cities or countries in a very productive way.As you say, she has been awarded several awards for specific reasons, well then good for her, but I still think there hunderds of more deseving people out there.As you would know, awards are rewraded upon change and commitment not for just "talking."Has her country changed since her interviews?Are women allowed to do a lot more???The last time I checked, many women were still living in fear and hostile conditons in Jordan.
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Rania is not an American woman. She is an Arab, Muslim Queen.
Many of the things she talks of and causes she's devoted to are taboos and not even mentioned by most people in her region, ie. sexual abuse of children, honour killing etc.
Giving Jordanian women a small business loan through the micro-entrepreneurship intiative by Rania is involved in, so they have the freedom to earn their own living may not mean much to you but im sure it does to those whose lives depend on it.
Perhaps if she single-handedly cured all her country's problems, she'll deserve some praise in your estimation. She has, after all, been Queen for all of 6 years.
About her being an Arab queen, maybe you should see this website.http://www.aswsa.net/arabwomen.htm.Further more, I don't expect her to solve all her countries problems, but she is being awarded like she is doing that.Many women have the freedom to earn their own livings, but the real problem, which you ingored to highlight, is that there are no jobs.How are people suppose to work when there is no where to work?For her giving those loans,how much of the population does that represent?
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personally I think it is good that famous people give a good example and I noticed that some of famous people use the media craze about them and turned it to some thing positive through turned the media attention on important cases and in the same time the human organization get a big benefits , and I know that some of those famous people do it just for show , to let every one talk about how they are great and how they an angels etc ... but it does not bother me if there show will help people in need and I will not be sad if they take awards for there humanitarian works ( any way it is just my opinion ) :)
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About her being an Arab queen, maybe you should see this website.http://www.aswsa.net/arabwomen.htm.Further more, I don't expect her to solve all her countries problems, but she is being awarded like she is doing that.Many women have the freedom to earn their own livings, but the real problem, which you ingored to highlight, is that there are no jobs.How are people suppose to work when there is no where to work?For her giving those loans,how much of the population does that represent?
I have personally read stories and actually seen them on tv of Jordanian women who, through these loans, have established their own home businesses and are earning a living, whether its through manufacturing and selling handi-crafts or setting up a small photography studio etc. Or maybe in your view unemployement, something Rania didnt cause, cancels that out.
Infact because of the success of this initiative Rania was made an emissary for the International Year of Microcredit (2005)
http://www.yearofmicrocredit.org/pag...p_abdullah.asp
What does it matter how much of a population this helps? the fact that it can help hundreds and even thousands means nothing?
What percentage of refugees has Angelina Jolie helped? Has she helped them go back to their countries? Helped them find permanent homes?
Im realisitc so I dont expect one single person to solve a problem that has existed for decades and is by no means her fault.
Its interesting how some make light of anything Rania has done by pointing out social and economic problems that have been endemic in the region for decades and are the result of incredibly complicated historical and political events.
Its even more interesting that people tend to ignore that fact that she is the consort of the King of Jordan, not the monarch herself. Nor does she make laws, or have the ability to change the traditional mindset of her countrymen, or get rid of all the problems around her. She, like every individual, can only do her share.

It is specious reasoning to say one person doesnt deserve an award because another works much harder. If things worked that way then no one would get recognized. I can think of people who work much harder than Clinton or Jolie. Infact I can think of people who deserve the Nobel prize but have never been nominated. But that doest mean that everytime someone else gets an award I belittle it by calling it a joke.
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personally I think it is good that famous people give a good example and I noticed that some of famous people use the media craze about them and turned it to some thing positive through turned the media attention on important cases and in the same time the human organization get a big benefits , and I know that some of those famous people do it just for show , to let every one talk about how they are great and how they an angels etc ... but it does not bother me if there show will help people in need and I will not be sad if they take awards for there humanitarian works ( any way it is just my opinion ) :)
Well said. The celebrities (for example Angelina Jolie, Richard Gere or Bono) practice charity because they want to become more famous. This is a business in Hollywood if you would like to become well-known.

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Congratulations to Rania on her new awards, she's certainly earned them.
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http://www.jordantimes.com/sun/homenews/homenews5.htm

Queen Rania receives Honorary Citizenship of Milan Award

AMMAN (JT) — Her Majesty Queen Rania was granted the Honorary Citizenship of Milan Award on Saturday, in recognition for her work and social contributions on the international front.

Milan Mayor Gabriele Albertini, who conferred the citizenship on the Queen in an official ceremony yesterday, praised all her efforts, particularly those “demonstrated towards universal themes, which have always taken up the plight of the most vulnerable people, including the protection of children's rights, education and policies in favour of the young, support to children whose lives have been damaged by war and conflict.”
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http://www.petra.gov.jo/nepras/2005/Sep/03/27274000.htm

Queen Rania urges international community to employ human understanding, personal intelligence when tackling global challenges</FONT></STRONG>

Pet0459 4 1570 Queen Rania urges international community to employ human understanding, personal intelligence when tackling global challenges Amman, Sep. 3(Petra)-- Her Majesty Queen Rania Al-Abdullah, on Friday, underlined that it is through human contact and interaction and through building bridges of understanding that we can actually really get to know one another and increase the level of tolerance, thereby realizing that there is much more that unites us rather than separates us.
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King Abdullah to Arrive in Jerusalem on Wednesday

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Well said. The celebrities (for example Angelina Jolie, Richard Gere or Bono) practice charity because they want to become more famous. This is a business in Hollywood if you would like to become well-known.
I think Bono is one of the few celbrities out there who's sincere wih his causes. He works almost as hard as he does (if not more) at his humanitarian jobs as he does with his music. He also doesn't do it in order to become famous since his status has been cemented since a long time ago.

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I agree with you moby,Bono inlike some others celebrities,works for humanitarian sincerly,his engagement didn't bring him any fam,in the opposit,it coasted him his safe,and we know all the story behind when he decided to sing "Bloody sunday",and he was already famous...

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Palop,

Maybe you are right when you say that many people are working in humanity things and all of them should deserve any kind and our abslute recognition. However, don't forget that Queen Rania is a Queen, that means tat she can be an example for not only women but also men interested in humanitary activities. The Queen could spent hr time in other things and you see how her will is to help poor people, women, children, and this activities deserve intenational and our aplauses.
Famous people can also do it and I personally prefer they do it before not doing it, but don't forget they probably try to take some kind of popularity. The Queen doesn'tneed this popularity.
Yours sincerely,
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About her being an Arab queen, maybe you should see this website.http://www.aswsa.net/arabwomen.htm.Further more, I don't expect her to solve all her countries problems, but she is being awarded like she is doing that.Many women have the freedom to earn their own livings, but the real problem, which you ingored to highlight, is that there are no jobs.How are people suppose to work when there is no where to work?For her giving those loans,how much of the population does that represent?
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An outline of King Abdullah's upcoming activities. So far I know that Queen Rania will accompany him to the Clinton Global Initiative conference in New York this month. Not sure about the rest. I think she might also go to the Vatican with him.

King to visit Turkey, Vatican, US
AMMAN — His Majesty King Abdullah is expected to travel to Turkey on a one-day working visit this week and later this month head to the Vatican City and the US, where he will attend the UN 2005 World Summit, a senior Royal Court official confirmed on Saturday.
http://www.jordantimes.com/sun/homenews/homenews1.htm
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King Abdullah arrives in Jeddah

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Someone here should tell this queen to straighten and to bleach her teeth...She is stylish but when it comes to her teeth,... ..Does anyone know whether she is a smoker?

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Jordanian king back home after short visit to Saudi Arabia POL-3LD JORDAN-SAUDI-VISIT
Jordanian king back home after short visit to Saudi Arabia
(Changing dateline) AMMAN, Sept 4 (KUNA) -- Jordanian King Abdullah II returned home Sunday following a short visit to Saudi Arabia, a statement by the royal court said.

King Abdullah II held talks with King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz during the visit.

The two leaders highlighted the importance of protecting Iraq's unity and voiced support for efforts to restore stability and peace to the Arab state and for securing a better future for the Iraqi people.

Turning to another issue, the statement said that the two leaders have considered the Israeli withdrawal for the Gaza Strip "a positive and important step provided that other pullouts from the West Bank would follow within the road map to peace plan", that is aimed at the creation of a viable and