King Abdullah And Queen Rania - discussing their projects

[Monalisa]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:14 pm
According to Getty it was actually a lingon berry drink served in a glass of ice during a visit to the Sami village of Jukkasjaervi outside Kiruna in northern Sweden.

The Queen does an incredible amount of work that does get covered by western media because it is very important. The first Arab regional conference on Child abuse and neglect has just taken place in Amman. If it wasn't for the Queen events such as this would be years away in taking place in the Arab region IMO. Rania has enormous exposure not because she craves it but because she is a charismatic and hard-working individual who cares deeply about her country.


TC
Barbara

So what are cocreate results after Qr's EXCEPTIONNEL works,if u talk about her participation in galas of charity,i don't see what concreatly changed after that.
Can participate in those galas all people with knowen name,or with a big acount banking,this is jet set life,superficial one,for people who want to appear.
Mybe it's a current thing to take an agency to be followed,but real social works don't need that,except if one's have something to prove,to show or to hide,it's not a busness,there's not something to sell!!!!
In the end u talked about works for children and fighting violence against them and against women,yes of course it's good,but was existing before,in morocco for example with concreate results from end of 80's,without a lot of fuss for nothing,and at last with the stabillisation of women rights'

[Monalisa]

In morocco exists a foundation "BAYTI" from the end of 80's,for children who was living in the margins of society,against the violence.
There's also a foundation for women who have illegal kids(out of marriage),with help from M6 foundation,with an annual buddget to make them life easy
It was exesting before QR's works for arab women

[madonna23]

i agree monalisa...morocco has made a far greater improvement in women's rights than jordan has considered where they both started off and where they are now...and that is due in no small part to the efforts of Lalla Meriam and her sisters, aunts, and cousins...

you know, we've discussed the spending thing over and over before...but it still disgusts me...and i don't want to criticize just rania here because i think that's just putting the blame on one person...because it's not just her fault, i think...it our whole society and what we are becoming in an increasingly money-conscious world...everyone admires the rich and fashionable for no reason other than the fact that they have a fortune and dress nice...it's a shame that other, less fashionable and less wealthy (you know, those people who can't afford to go to galas and charity dinners but who instead work tirelessly for the poor without asking for recognition) don't get noticed....they should...

[Monalisa]

I agree madonna,i don't blame again QR for her spending and her way of being,the beganning of this topic was about her play with photographers and paparazzis.
To put her on the pedestal is not correct in this case.
Of course,she can realize social works,but without a lot fuss.
What i want to say here, that ther's something wrong in this way to be a spouse of a head of a state which's traying to improve his economic situation,it slows down real progress and turn attentions for superficial things.

[madonna23]

...i want to add that i remember reading an interview with rania when she was a princess...she was asked what her idea of a princess was, or something along those lines...and she replied that the days had gone when royalty was about glamour or riches...instead, she said, royalty should now be about giving back to the community...

also, if your remember, in the beginning of her reign as queen, rania was actually quite modest, borrowing haya's tiara for her coronation, among other things...

however, she's taken a whole 180 and transformed into a completely different person...and that's not her fault entirely...it has to do with society and how we view people and how the west, in particular, looks at people....

[*Elle*]

QR seems to want the press to see her. Most royals try to be seen as little as possible. QR wants credit for everything she does. She seems more like an actress than a queen. She is in many magazines and she has made a few television appearances. I think that everyone is equal no matter how rich they are. QR puts herself on a status level equal to no other. As long as foreign countries give Jordan aid money for her to buy her expensive clothes and live her lavish life style she is content. How can she wear an outfit that costs more than the average Jordan makes in a whole year? How can she say that she feels sorry for another human who does not have enough to eat when all she has to do is take off her coat and buy them a meal? She is so vain. She is no better than any other person on this earth.
Elle

[Monalisa]

I don't agree that a person could take 180,and changing,and to transformed like QR.
Anyway,i am not talking again about her luxury's tastes,and her sens' of wearing which was transformed a lot,at least,she's rich and can offer herself this quality of life,but please without this indecent display of luxury,her answer to a french journalist about her habits' choice was(jordanians don't wear modern and elegant habits like me because of their econonomic situation"thé ou café" programm in french TV,interview in October 2002

[*Elle*]

I think that she borrowed the tiara to make her look down to earth and easy to relate to. Something that we now know that she is not. QR supporters say that she receives her clothes for free. She may have had a few things given to her, but not all of the clothes that she owns. I rarely see her wear the same outfit twice. I have seen CP Victoria wear the same dress at least three times maybe even four. How can she find her looks more important than the lives of her people?
Elle

[Monalisa]

Originally posted by *Elle*@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 7:52 pm
I think that she borrowed the tiara to make her look down to earth and easy to relate to. Something that we now know that she is not. QR supporters say that she receives her clothes for free. She may have had a few things given to her, but not all of the clothes that she owns. I rarely see her wear the same outfit twice. I have seen CP Victoria wear the same dress at least three times maybe even four. How can she find her looks more important than the lives of her people?
Elle

it's not here the problem to recycle or not her clothes,the problem is displalay indecently,to take an agency ,to be followed by armada of fotographers,to show whta's new she's wearing.
The wrong thing it's the play with camera and photographers,but why?and for what?

[Monalisa]

If QR was wearing her sister's in law tiara,so she a lot changed from 99,and from her coronoration.
In her visit in Sweeden,in october 2003,she was wearing a new tiara with green emerald and diamond,which she maybe offred one's self,anyway,it's her right here.

[Monalisa]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:14 pm
According to Getty it was actually a lingon berry drink served in a glass of ice during a visit to the Sami village of Jukkasjaervi outside Kiruna in northern Sweden.

The Queen does an incredible amount of work that does get covered by western media because it is very important. The first Arab regional conference on Child abuse and neglect has just taken place in Amman. If it wasn't for the Queen events such as this would be years away in taking place in the Arab region IMO. Rania has enormous exposure not because she craves it but because she is a charismatic and hard-working individual who cares deeply about her country.


TC
Barbara

according to the comment of the journalist from"point de vue",it was a glass of warm red wine

[Monalisa]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:35 pm

This is a common practice actually, Asma among high profile individuals. It is not for personal exposure but to provide and share information about the event which in this case was a conference on Women and Law attended by the Queen and Cherie Blair.

TC
Barbara

Which informations QR shared with us when was participing in armani's fashion show,when bying ouftis from Christian Dior's store in Paris,when making cooee for journalist during her holiday in Majorque when the same day the jordanian embassy was explosed in Beirut?

[*Elle*]

I think that if she would recycle her clothes it would make her look better in the eyes of others. I would not care how much she spent on clothes if I did not think that she was using foreign aid money intended for her people.
Elle

[Asma2]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:35 pm

This is a common practice actually, Asma among high profile individuals. It is not for personal exposure but to provide and share information about the event which in this case was a conference on Women and Law attended by the Queen and Cherie Blair.

TC
Barbara

It is not a common practice in Royal society. In fact, I am not aware of any other Royal Family to do so. The pictures from royal families are only handed on rare occasions like birth, weddings. When you check Getty Images you will find that conference on Women and Law was not the only case. Many (if not majority) of photos of Rania are handouts from Royal Palace and even Rania’s office. This is very cheap way to promote or to share the info (if we can call photo the source of info). We don’t see that in Morocco Royal family. They don’t waste their time sending photos all over the world and yet, we are aware of their work. Why? Because every reasonable person can see the results. As for sending photos to agency like Getty Images, it just shows how desperate Rania is for the attention of western agencies.

[Asma2]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:14 pm

The first Arab regional conference on Child abuse and neglect has just taken place in Amman

Barbara, It is not "The first Arab regional conference on Child abuse and neglect has just taken place in Amman"!!! However, it is the first an Arab regional conference with the main theme "Violence against Children, Breaking the Silence… Strengthening Responses" that is being held by the International Society for Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect (ISPCAN) in Amman.

Do you see the difference?



The conferences like that were held before in Arab countries.

[Asma2]

Originally posted by barbara_41172@Feb 23rd, 2004 - 6:14 pm

If it wasn't for the Queen events such as this would be years away in taking place in the Arab region IMO.

Are you kidding? Where did you get this? The conference "Violence against Children, Breaking the Silence… Strengthening Responses" is being organized by the International Society for Prevention of Child Abuse and Neglect (ISPCAN) and other partner's organizations. The event like this is not done by one person. It takes organization or organizations to put together such conference, team of people. Rania only attended the conference. On ISPCAN website, she was not even mentioned (at least I did not find anything).


To provide the back up for the facts that I stated please visit the international organization (we all can say that their news information are correct one and not corrupt one) ISPCAN. One can learn more not just about current event but organization as well.


http://www.ispcan.org/Congresses%20Support...by%20ISPCAN.htm



Rania is not the first in the region to address such an issue. The Queen Noor and Queen Alia addressed on child abuse years before. Morocco’s Royal Family is an example where they don’t just address but they act. New law of Moudawana is huge an example of that. When we are talking about Morocco’s Royal Family we don’t have to say that they do so much (those are just empty words) but we can exactly define what MRF did and how much they changed women and children lives.

[*Elle*]

I truly dislike QR’s spending habits, but who really cares how many magazines that she is in. I used to think that she was a bad person and I still am not a fan. Truly I have to agree when she says that people are envious of her. I guess that I have had a drastic change of heart towards her. People complain about how much attention she gets, but people give her attention by degrading her.
Elle

[maryshawn]

There were "issues" early on in the marriage of King Abdullah and Queen Rania but now he is--according to journalists who see them regularly--absolutely "besotted" by her. Apparently, he, too, was amazed by the poise, grace and substance she shows the world. He would be a fool to try and replace her. Just my opinion.

[Charcoal Grey]

There were "issues" early on in the marriage of King Abdullah and Queen Rania

What kind of issues are you talking about? How would you know something so private, if you don't mind my saying so? More rumours and innuendo, that's what I think...

[cute_girl]

KR traveling whithout QR hardly warrants a breakup in their relationship.be sure that if he really wants to divorce Rania none of her characterstic features and qualities will prevent him,if he wants to find someone more beautiful or younger,he doesnt need to travel around,alone to find the person!though most of westerns call Rania a super model,a real beauty,a fashion icon,etc...she's nothing compared to Iranian,Indian and lebanese beauties.from what I've heard arabs don't value and respect marriage,love and women that much.most them have 3-4 wives,they always divorce the oldones and marry girls so much younger,and princess Haya's marraige to a man 25y older with 3 wives proves such a custome!or have yu ever heard of a reason why king Hussein divorce Q.Dina and Q.Muna??????Although I dont like Rania's luxurious way of living in such a poor country,I hope divorce never lands on her,she has done so much to improve the culture in Jordan,I think Rania wont let princess Noor to have the role of a queen,I
guess KA and QR will pass power to their son Hussein and so his future wife will be the next queen.